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Kstatida
If U.S. sets foot in NK, neither Russia nor China are gonna sit and wait. That's one of the main reasons U.S. won't set a foot in NK while there's someone half-sane in the office.

I agree the US shouldn't ever set foot in NK. This would be disastrous, especially in light of how North Koreans view Americans, and the historic propaganda which goes back generations telling its people we'll come to rape and pillage. However, I'm not against bombing military targets there the second one of their missiles is launched at a low-trajectory attack pattern (like toward Guam for instance).

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Kstatida
As for the "why are China and Russia sitting out" issue - simply because we don't have problems with NK. Neither needs NK warmongering in the East China so we don't need to hype about Kim Jong Un being a bloodthirsty lunatic. We are neighbours, have contacts, embassies, common projects, hands on the ground, we don't need to slam down NK b/c we know the limits of its nuclear and missile programs (and b/c U.S. base in SK pisses us both off).

Interesting to note that you don't see KJU as a threat. I suppose it's because he's not threatening you or your family. With all due respect I think you are misplacing who is the aggressor here (hint: it's not the US-- at least not yet). Let me ask you something, if someone comes at you with a knife, do you wait until it is swinging at you to react? Do you wait until is plunged into your chest?

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If NK really had serious progress with nuclear program - I bet you my fancy hat we'd address this a.s.a.p. But it doesn't, so we're better off collaborating instead of raising bets and screaming.

I'd prefer to take action before they get fully operational. Can you honestly not see where this is going? Can you tell me with a straight face that sometime down the road-- maybe 1 year, maybe 20 years, that NK will not have full nuclear capabilities? Am I really just a victim of US propaganda and KJU actually, really wants to be friends and all of this is just make-believe? No dude, these guys have been building for this for literal decades, if you understand history, they don't really like the US very much. I don't really care who is at fault either-- the seeds were planted in the 40's or 50's (edit: probably before, technically, but no reason to take it further), so if those fucks don't want to let it go, then they can be purged from future history, as far as I'm concerned.

As a side note, I would bet good money that China is intentionally feeding NK tech and money in order to destabilize the area. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if Russia was doing the same. In fact, North Korea, China (and probably Russia as well), thinks they are being very clever and smart with causing this chaos, and forcing our hand. I understand that they have already thought out several steps ahead.. The one thing that makes me sleep well at night is that President Mattis is really the guy in charge of the military (not Trump), and he is much wiser and powerful than these people understand. Trust me, the game will be played on our terms one way or another.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/10/2017 09:56AM by Jib.