A combination of things

October 12, 2017 11:00PM
One of the main Marx's points is that the added value is created only by exploitation of the working class by the capitalist.

In USSR all production is owned by the people (state), therefore there's no need for added value and exploitation, the workers earn enough to sustain their life.

You have to sustain living of all citizens, regardless of their output, therefore they should all earn enough.

As a result, engineers earn pretty much the same as janitors and professors and government officials - the money they earn is not connected with the value they produced, so you have a major economic disbalance, and you can't use money people earn as purchasing power typical for market economy.

As a result, you can't balance that on the level of individual business entity, you have to balance it on a state level. The only way you can do it is by splitting retail and production monetary policies.

This way, everyone earns the same money, and the obvious imbalance is fixed by limited access to retail goods not necessary for survival which you can't purchase if you didn't "deserve" it. This requires a complicated system of retail goods distribution (it was managed by Gossnab [en.wikipedia.org] ).

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What happened with the fall of Soviet Union (the so called shock therapy) - was uniting the retail and production monetary systems. Production were forced to account costs with money they earn from retail in the same manner as market economy works. Instantly there was lack of money, all production switched to barter, economy collapsed and we had to rebuild it from scratch.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2017 11:49PM by Kstatida.
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Crowdsourcing interesting news topics

Flipside Oreo October 10, 2017 07:19AM

More Sunday political news and general happenings:

istirith October 22, 2017 09:10AM

Re: More Sunday political news and general happenings:

Kstatida October 22, 2017 09:42AM

You're probably right..

istirith October 22, 2017 09:20PM

I consider this to be the direct concequence of deteriorating economic situation

Kstatida October 22, 2017 11:07PM

My interest

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 12:20AM

Hot off the presses from Europe.

istirith October 17, 2017 03:25AM

Thanks! And also Iraq starts getting it on with the kurds in Kirkuk..

Flipside Oreo October 18, 2017 11:40PM

I know it's chique to hate on Muslims these days

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 12:07AM

Please

Kstatida October 20, 2017 12:59AM

I honestly don't give a shit

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 01:03AM

I'm not far from Myanmar and Kstat isn't wrong

starbright October 20, 2017 08:35PM

You know that in the Middle East..

istirith October 20, 2017 01:44PM

Re: I honestly don't give a shit

Kstatida October 20, 2017 01:11AM

I get it

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 01:18AM

Yet here you are.

Matrik October 20, 2017 05:24AM

What would you have me do instead?

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 07:35AM

It doesn't beat it.

Matrik October 20, 2017 07:51AM

Re: I get it

Kstatida October 20, 2017 01:34AM

I slaughtered...

istirith October 20, 2017 01:42PM

Re: Thanks! And also Iraq starts getting it on with the kurds in Kirkuk..

Kstatida October 19, 2017 01:58AM

Re: Crowdsourcing interesting news topics

PaulO October 11, 2017 08:25AM

Thanks for this

Flipside Oreo October 13, 2017 12:04AM

Re: Thanks for this

PaulO October 15, 2017 01:52AM

Re: Crowdsourcing interesting news topics

MiyagiYojimbo October 10, 2017 07:37PM

Mmm life is hard in teh box. But we escaped chasing the carrot thief. Now it polishes the I-steel o so shiny. nt

Flipside Oreo October 12, 2017 01:50AM

The pipe strip. (n/t)

Matrik October 10, 2017 03:45PM

I'd say the most interesting currently is

Kstatida October 10, 2017 10:39AM

Re: I'd say the most interesting currently is

Flipside Oreo October 12, 2017 02:36AM

The middle east is a bit deceptive.

istirith October 10, 2017 10:57AM

I'd say "a bit" is a bit of an underestimation :)

Kstatida October 10, 2017 11:01AM

By the way...

istirith October 10, 2017 11:07AM

How about..

istirith October 10, 2017 09:23AM

I agree about your economic pessimism

Flipside Oreo October 12, 2017 12:52AM

This is because the public sector debt..

istirith October 12, 2017 01:43AM

Re: This is because the public sector debt..

Kstatida October 12, 2017 02:50AM

I'm talking about..

istirith October 12, 2017 03:54AM

I don't think so

Kstatida October 12, 2017 04:12AM

Unfortunately..

istirith October 12, 2017 04:22AM

You forget that budget deficit skyrocketed during G.W.Bush, not Obama

Kstatida October 12, 2017 05:18AM

Bad example

Quas October 20, 2017 07:39PM

Dental implants are never covered in russia

Kstatida October 20, 2017 10:35PM

Dental implant is about 2000-2500 EUR in Finland.

DurNominator December 23, 2017 10:07PM

Which is exactly why

Kstatida December 24, 2017 01:25PM

I can't believe you are still pretending to be from Russia. (n/t)

Matrik October 20, 2017 11:26PM

I do what ant overlords tell me

Kstatida October 21, 2017 01:45AM

Interstate competition is necessary..

istirith October 12, 2017 05:28AM

Yup

Kstatida October 12, 2017 06:02AM

Re: Yup

istirith October 12, 2017 07:07AM

Initial discussion aside: There is a solution

Kstatida October 12, 2017 07:24AM

Free education will not happen..

istirith October 12, 2017 07:45AM

Huh?

Kstatida October 12, 2017 07:52AM

They're not private sector loans.

istirith October 12, 2017 07:56AM

You mean they're basicly state slavery contracts. Taxing youth instead of investing in it.

Kstatida October 12, 2017 08:02AM

Yes.

istirith October 12, 2017 08:06AM

I guess now I understand better

Kstatida October 12, 2017 08:14AM

The entire focus on hedonism and lack of savings..

istirith October 12, 2017 08:20AM

I hear you

Kstatida October 12, 2017 10:49AM

In the sense the entitlements are way beyond anything offered elsewhere..

istirith October 12, 2017 02:46PM

A combination of things

Kstatida October 12, 2017 11:00PM

What a nightmare..

istirith October 13, 2017 08:13AM

Well, it's fundamentally different from market

Kstatida October 13, 2017 11:58AM

Also..

istirith October 11, 2017 01:26AM

I'd skip Scottish independence(as I don't think it'll happen because they l fucked themselves with brexit anyhow)

demos October 10, 2017 07:44AM

The Scots did NOT fuck themselves regarding Brexit

Dalbrin October 20, 2017 12:12AM

Re: The Scots did NOT fuck themselves regarding Brexit

demos October 20, 2017 07:24PM



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