Re: All theory no practical experience...

December 05, 2007 03:59PM
Yes I was a little bit ticked in my post, a combination of being burned by a mortgage and your holier then thou tone. I suggest you watch "Maxed Out" to see a more human side of things. As far as my rent vs condo payments. They are about the same now with the ARM kicking in. I was paying about $1,800 for a beach front apartment in Huntington(Centerport) Long Island, my mortgage was about $1,100 a month with taxes(condo taxes are low) and only $185 in maintenance a month which includes water. Granted it's not on the beach but it's still damn nice.Yes your 80,000 might make you more money invested in your portfolio but you also run the risk of losing money or not doing near 15% to 30% a year(If you're really getting a 30% a year return hell I'll hire you as my broker). As far as having to spend $400,000 for a condo to be as nice as your apartment it sounds like you are talking about a 3 bedroom townhouse with a hot tub or something. Also I don't know where you're getting that condos don't match inflation, I paid 180k for mine 3 years ago and it's been appraised for 225k this year and I have a friend who bought his for 110k 7 years ago and sold it for 250k 2 years ago. In fact because homes are getting out of the range of many people and the difficulty in obtaining large loans, condos are becoming more valuable as people are forced to buy them who would be buying homes just a few years ago. In another 2-3 years I plan on buying a house and renting the condo, and keeping it as a retirement investment.
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Why Handholding is Bad

Death_Claw December 04, 2007 11:42AM

Update.

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 10:45AM

No Empathy Eh?

happyorb December 04, 2007 08:07PM

This is a pretty discrete fix. Are you a subprime mortgagee?

Balrahd(VIP) December 05, 2007 01:25PM

Clinton is pushing it to, only even in a more socialist and insane way.

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 02:46PM

I hear you.

bajula December 05, 2007 08:02AM

A little addition...

bajula December 05, 2007 08:25AM

Re: A little addition...

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 08:38AM

Re: A little addition...

happyorb December 05, 2007 08:59AM

aww orb used to be happy

Stevers April 27, 2010 05:03PM

I'm sorry but you're off base arguing with DC here

Lokain December 05, 2007 12:55PM

Re: I'm sorry but you're off base arguing with DC here

happyorb December 05, 2007 03:30PM

I have to object to one point.

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 05:07PM

If you can't be bothered to read the contract don't sign it. n/t

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 09:18AM

That's what I hired my moron Lawyer to do. He failed, and I was screwed. ~

happyorb December 05, 2007 03:31PM

I would be shocked if 5% homebuyers read the final Kts.

Balrahd(VIP) December 05, 2007 01:33PM

I'm not disagreeing with that, its hardly an excuse however.

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 02:23PM

More importantly, if you're mortgaging 3-4x your income, pay a lawyer to read it for you nt

Rade December 05, 2007 09:46AM

RIF, I hired a Lawyer to read it, he sucked. ~

happyorb December 05, 2007 04:00PM

Re: No Empathy Eh?

Death_Claw December 04, 2007 08:44PM

All theory no practical experience...

happyorb December 05, 2007 08:48AM

I would rather rent.

cointreau December 05, 2007 11:27AM

Re: All theory no practical experience...

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 09:18AM

Re: All theory no practical experience...

happyorb December 05, 2007 03:59PM

Re: All theory no practical experience...

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 04:58PM

Weren't you the one who previously argued that homeownership is the end all/ beat all of human happiness? n/t

jegec December 05, 2007 02:36PM

I argued its not affordable for your typical person (and it should be).

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 02:47PM

Here's what I was thinking of

jegec December 05, 2007 03:24PM

What's your point?

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 04:50PM

Maybe I misread

jegec December 05, 2007 05:03PM

There are qualitative benefits to owning a home.

Death_Claw December 05, 2007 05:15PM

I was going to make an elaborate post about opportunity cost but i see you beat me to it

Rade December 05, 2007 09:51AM

Buy vs. Rent has a ton of variables.

ExPaladin(VIP) December 05, 2007 09:05AM

Some good points, for me it was a much better deal to buy. ~

happyorb December 05, 2007 03:33PM

Condo's also have hidden risks

ExPaladin(VIP) December 05, 2007 09:09AM

A lot of this also goes into the differences between...

Death_Claw December 04, 2007 08:59PM

*clap* *clap* Hurray for financial responsibility! nt

infi December 05, 2007 01:26AM

Ron paul plug. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) December 04, 2007 12:52PM

The US Mortgage crisis.

DurNominator(VIP) December 04, 2007 11:51AM



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