I know lots of guys in the military.

Frosty

October 05, 2011 03:30PM

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A very close friend of mine, one of the few that nerded out enough as me to play magic the gathering, died in battle. He was an honest guy. One of my friends married a fellow high school classmate of mine, one of the biggest assholes I know. He hates ethnic groups and got his squad in the habit of listening to let the bodies hit the floor by drowning pool before they went into hostile areas. I don't stereotype.

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For Java, police brutality video.	alansmithee	October 04, 2011 06:49AM
Just to answer everyone at once:	Java	October 06, 2011 03:16AM
I think that's the issue for me.	Death_Claw	October 07, 2011 03:57AM
Why do you continue to ignore the facts? Why do you continue to say 'mid arrest'? There was no arrest. He walked up and sprayed these women with pepper then walked away. Period. (n/t)	alansmithee	October 06, 2011 06:40AM
deleted nt	Rade	October 08, 2011 06:06AM
How many times do I have to say I agree about the pepper spray? God damn.	Java	October 06, 2011 06:59AM
Worst part of the pepper spray video? The cops behind the protestors who got hit with it too. I wonder if they had a talk with the dude who emptied the whole can... NT	Sam	October 06, 2011 04:54AM
To be clear	Rade	October 06, 2011 04:40AM
Except.	Java	October 06, 2011 05:01AM
The videos posted in this thread are like half-logs on the log board. More context is needed to make a decision. (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 07:52AM
NO, I WANT TO REACT VIOLENTLY AND RADICALLY, RIGHT NOW! nt	Batman	October 05, 2011 07:59AM
Java is a military man. His opinions are HIGHLY biased. Listen to him if you want a good laugh. (n/t)	Frosty	October 05, 2011 07:19AM
Ah yes, I forgot. Being in the military makes your bias level sky-rocket. No sensible people allowed in at all. (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 08:15AM
This was meant for Java, not Matrik (n/t)	Frosty	October 05, 2011 02:51PM
Still think it is good to point out that we all have bias. It's part of the human condition. (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 03:16PM
I've been reading the forums for a while. You are biased.	Frosty	October 05, 2011 01:59PM
Heh, ah. I was going to say...I'm typically on the opposite side of an argument from Java. (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 03:09PM
We've had this discussion before. The military openly uses brainwashing tactics during boot camp	Rade	October 05, 2011 12:41PM
We have? I don't recall this conversation.	Matrik	October 05, 2011 12:50PM
It was possibly a few years ago	Rade	October 05, 2011 04:42PM
I don't dispute that it is brainwashing. I do dispute it's level of affect.	Matrik	October 05, 2011 05:52PM
Here's the important part of it	Rade	October 06, 2011 03:47AM
This is simply incorrect. (n/t)	Matrik	October 06, 2011 06:08AM
You've never served, have you?	Java	October 06, 2011 04:02AM
I've never been a member of a cult either	Rade	October 06, 2011 05:50AM
Please elaborate on why you believe it is brainwashing. Where did you get your information from, why do you think the way you do about this? (n/t)	paulstrack	October 06, 2011 07:09AM
Read up thread	Rade	October 06, 2011 12:41PM
Yet none of these correlates to "bias towards judging an incident as police brutality over not police brutality" (n/t)	Matrik	October 06, 2011 12:50PM
Surely you can't be serious. I can only assume you aren't. (n/t)	Matrik	October 06, 2011 06:13AM
The fact that you're comparing the military to a cult..	Java	October 06, 2011 05:52AM
Neither the military or police are cults	Rade	October 06, 2011 12:50PM
There is a difference between cult like "brain washing" and military "conditioning"	Matrik	October 06, 2011 12:58PM
LOL WTF?	Rade	October 06, 2011 01:05PM
No you fucking buffoon. The training is to help them KEEP their self intact through such actions.	Matrik	October 06, 2011 01:18PM
To suggest that a person submitted to brainwashing techniques is not being brainwashed is incredible	Rade	October 06, 2011 02:23PM
I'm not disputing the "brainwashing" as you call it. I would call it conditioning. I'm disputing its affects.	Matrik	October 06, 2011 04:06PM
Since you don't see it I'll point out the items you specifically denied.	Rade	October 08, 2011 06:05AM
Incorrect again.	Matrik	October 08, 2011 01:16PM
Re: I'm not disputing the "brainwashing" as you call it. I would call it conditioning. I'm disputing its affects.	Rade	October 08, 2011 05:57AM
Seriously dude?	Matrik	October 08, 2011 01:13PM
Oh, and I meant "we" as in the forum have had this discussion, not you and I specifically nt	Rade	October 05, 2011 05:04PM
gotchya (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 05:45PM
Yeah that sensible serviceman I was talking to in a hotel bar the other night..	istirith	October 05, 2011 08:22AM
Re: Yeah that sensible serviceman I was talking to in a hotel bar the other night..	qurdind	October 05, 2011 09:16AM
That is exactly what Istirith and I are saying. Frosty was the one stereotyping here. (n/t)	Matrik	October 05, 2011 09:52AM
I'm not saying all in the military. I'm talking about Java specifically.	Frosty	October 05, 2011 02:20PM
His attitude is power-trippy.	istirith	October 06, 2011 12:36AM
Fair enough. I just don't like myself and my military brothers being cast in with Java simply for being military.	Matrik	October 05, 2011 03:13PM
I know lots of guys in the military.	Frosty	October 05, 2011 03:30PM
Someone's sarcasm meter is on the edge of critical failure. (n/t)	vortexmagus	October 05, 2011 09:32AM
Sorry. Rough day at work yesterday...	qurdind	October 05, 2011 10:09AM
Re: Sorry. Rough day at work yesterday...	istirith	October 06, 2011 12:34AM
What would the cops do if all those protesters just started rioting/throwing down? It's going to happen one of these days.	Sam	October 04, 2011 11:39PM
Individual incidents will always happen.	Java	October 06, 2011 03:25AM
Re: What would the cops do if all those protesters just started rioting/throwing down? It's going to happen one of these days.	qurdind	October 05, 2011 06:44AM
I understand, but what I am saying is 15000 > 500, even with guns.	Sam	October 05, 2011 09:06AM
You seem to be missing my whole argument with this video.	Java	October 04, 2011 06:18PM
"Pepper spray aside." No. Don't put it aside. That's one of the most egregious and obvious.	alansmithee	October 05, 2011 09:17AM
I have to agree with Java here.	Welverin	October 05, 2011 03:55AM
Well, what would you say to this?	Sam	October 04, 2011 07:00PM
I would say unruly mobs have a worse track record than cops.	Java	October 04, 2011 08:47PM
RE: those 700 dudes on the bridge	Splntrd	October 04, 2011 10:09PM
Link?	Java	October 04, 2011 10:36PM
You're right.	Splntrd	October 05, 2011 06:31AM
The New York Times doesn't speak for the police	Java	October 05, 2011 06:38AM
Re: The New York Times doesn't speak for the police	Splntrd	October 05, 2011 07:32AM
You're the one distorting things.	Java	October 06, 2011 03:35AM
I guess my thought is the details you're trying to pin down don't really matter.	Splntrd	October 06, 2011 06:28AM
I'm not trying to blame victims. I'm saying they were NOT victims.	Java	October 06, 2011 07:03AM
Weren't they? I mean, they were trapped, beaten, and maced, dude. nt	Splntrd	October 06, 2011 12:14PM
No they weren't.	Java	October 06, 2011 10:00PM
Haha. Java, you fucking crack me up. nt	qurdind	October 05, 2011 06:43AM
I'm assuming you're still overseas (why the link didn't work). The video I posted is off a cop slowly walking towards a group of bikers (like, Lance Armstrong bikes...not motorcycles) and full-on shoulder-blocking one of the dudes completely randomly.	Sam	October 04, 2011 08:54PM
Sounds like the dude had it coming. nt	Java	October 04, 2011 09:18PM
Yeah, no. I'm sorry, but America isn't a police state....yet. Biker did nothing to deserve it (hence, the cop got fired). NT	Sam	October 04, 2011 09:24PM
He shouldn't have been standing where the cop's shoulder wanted to be.	Java	October 04, 2011 09:35PM
The cop wasn't fired. Internal affairs cleared him. He did, however, resign.	Death_Claw	October 05, 2011 05:52AM
Mostly agree. (n/t)	alansmithee	October 05, 2011 09:23AM
My bad :( I just knew that dude wasn't a cop. Figured he got shitcanned. NT	Sam	October 05, 2011 09:07AM
Yeah. I lived near downtown Pittsburgh when the g20 or whatever was going on. Those dudes were fucking idiots. They trashed a Boston Market.	Sam	October 04, 2011 09:41PM
It sure seems like the older cops are typically the ones jacked up on power... Maybe term limits for cops and pay them more? n/t	Obaznuk	October 04, 2011 08:51AM
Hmmm. If I were to write this policy...	Splntrd	October 04, 2011 09:58AM
Actually, the problem is probably 1/3 of all cops become cops so they can...be cops and have power over people.	Sam	October 04, 2011 10:01AM
A different incentive scheme involving education might go a long way towards changing that. nt	Splntrd	October 04, 2011 10:26AM
I do not doubt that. NT	Sam	October 04, 2011 11:13AM

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