July 14, 2013 02:10PM
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but why is everyone focusing on the gun issue, and specifically trying to paint me as anti-gun? I'm a proud and well-trained weapon owner, and morons like Zimmerman give us a bad name and a harder time in Congress.
What rights? Well, there are anti-stalking laws in place, if it were a repeated occurrence. But more to your central questions:
'Second, let's say as a neighborhood watch you're inquiring about someone in your neighborhood and the guy begins to get very physical with you. What is the proper way to deal with it? '
Well, as a "neighborhood watch", your job is not to go "inquire about someone" (much different: "Oh, who moved into apartment C?" as opposed to "That guy looks shifty, think I'll go see what he's up to and ask him about his business"). In the Neighborhood Watch, your job is to keep a watch over your area, and REPORT SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY TO THE POLICE. That's it. That's the proper way to deal with it. If you're a neighborhood watch volunteer, and someone gets physical with you, you shouldn't be in that position in the first place and ESPECIALLY when the proper authorities have already told you to back off and stay away from the individual, there's a cop on the way. It's not like Martin was holding a girl down and raping her or beating someone up, or any other exigent circumstance that would NECESSITATE Zimmerman's involvement. Zim just apparently thought "I AM THA LAW" and went into action.
Finally, if you're a neighborhood watch volunteer (or even get promoted to watchman), and someone gets physical with you, you certainly might draw your weapon. However, if you have any training with your weapon, a kill-shot is not exactly necessary against an unarmed foe.
I have to say I agree with vortexmagus in that Zim's story is also his only real defense. One neighbor said after the shooting Zim appeared unhurt, and implied that his injuries came afterward. But hey, again, I say work with what you can prove. Zim acted irresponsibly and recklessly, even in the face of the police's instructions.
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