And furthermore... you're talking out your ass.:

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Posted by Maniakes on March 30, 2000 at 15:10:37:

In Reply to: And Furthermore... posted by Macheath on March 30, 2000 at 15:01:26:

> Let me define Courage for you too, while I'm at it. While not all ragers necessarily give a rat's ass about honor (though they may adhere to it for other reasons, like proving someone inferior by beating him one-on-one), every single one of them had damn well better be courageous. Now, where did this idea that killing a mage 2 on 1 indicates a lack of courage? If I'm willing to throw myself at a group of four that I could very easily die to, I'm courageous regardless of what I do to Joe Necromancer five minutes later with a friend. Courage isn't some kind of freaky ass substitute for Honor, Ye Who Would Gripe. Courage simply means having hope in potentially hopeless situations, and being willing to fight regardless of how badly the odds are stacked against you.
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> So next time eighteen 'ragers gangbang your naked transmuter, don't try and get them all uninducted on the grounds that they weren't courageous. You'd have much better luck saying they were dishonorable.

Actually, that is exactly how it is being dealt with. It *is* a substitute for honor. It is not being honorable, but the result is the same. You can't fight a foe with two of you and one of them. If you do, you get booted.

You're just wrong, Macheath.

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