Posted by Me on August 6, 2000 at 11:24:50:
In Reply to: "ground control to Major Tom..."-David Bowie (text? but of course) posted by Shokai(IMM) on August 6, 2000 at 06:33:11:
Let's define whining here, shall we? Whining is all I've seen you do so far on this thread...as I pointed out on the forum page, not having all the evidence I'll neither applaud nor damn the immortal in question. Whining consists of saying 'I've been screwed over'...dealing with the problem consists of saying 'I fucked up somewhere...I need to figure out how to fix it'.
> I applaud that at least you didn't just delete the character...and hope that you truely do seek BT.
What would a psychologist say here? I think something like, you have a victem mentallity. Wife gets beaten, she should be thinking 'I fucked up, I need to figure out how not to piss him off' She was at fault you know, look at her whine! I don't think so.
> Can be worn by goods? Well sure, charred bracers *can* be worn by ragers...will you see a rager wearing one? Not bloody likely. What Proud Blade was trying to point out (I think) is that there are some items that regardless of if they have anti_good flags on them...should probably not be worn by goods...there are a few things like that with evils, but as we all know...evils have a slightly easier ride on the justification boat. I'll give you another example..let's assume that a new item goes in the game that everyone can wear...and it's 'a blood-stained vest of sewn storm giant hide'...if I ever saw anyone who wanted to be a Maran wearing it....they'd be nailed right there for it. Just because the game will allow you to do something doesn't mean you should. I'm not saying that there is or isn't anything wrong with the shadow dagger, just saying that description clues...and roleplay should also define your equipment...not just game mechanics.
Wowee, you found the exception to the rule, storm giant hide ... heh. Who cares, you take it out of context with semantics. He has explained more than a few times now EXACTLY why he had the evil gear, in a roleplaying, in character, VALID way.
> again, add it to your role. The basic way that a role should work, IMHO is that anything of importance...anything slightly odd, quirky, or off color about your character should go there. Mannerisms, paticular dislikes/likes...etc...stick it in the role.
I agree with the Immortal here. But for not placing something in your role, that you actually WERE roleplaying, should the punishment have been so severe?
> I'll take your word for it, but in all honesty...I just don't see anyone on the imm staff fucking up someone else's empoweree for shits and giggles. I know it's a nice theory, but having worked with the people on the imm staff...*shrug* I really can't see it happening.
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> > Also for your random paladin to fuck over theory.. If I had done something else, Why did the Immortal not mention that I had killed orphans or something like that.
> > Your argue is nullified in that respect.
> > The Immortal gave the reasons as to why, and was incredibly wrong in doing so.
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> A common theme I'm seeing here...is you blaming the immortal while swearing that you're as pure as a white lilly blooming in a virgin forest. I'm not going to argue with you since I don't know/want to know your character's name, history, yada yada yada. I will however point you to the aforementioned doubtfulness of random immortal fuck-over.
As Spheremaker said ... he looked around and wondered when a few paladins were going to get unempowered, so .... your point is gone. At least one Immortal was (not randomly) thinking that a heavier hand should be used, too bad it came down on this player - who put alot of time into fleshing out his character and sitting on his hands for BT.
> > Okay as for greed, Whoopy doo
> > Shit in my backpack... ROFL
> > dude how much elite eq or bs shit can you put in a backpack.. Do rember nothing limited.... Laugh.
> > My current bank account was about 500k or so.
> > the 47 million came from a level 37 duergar warrior who had 3 wide coppers 3 sets of pwent and a bunch of other shit, he was just full to the brim with hoarded eq.
> > I think I managed to blow about 5 million in 1 hour at the Inn, I gave away to everyone I knew IC about 500k or so each. I droped chucnks of million randomly around galadon and had a fun time with a Gold put hunting exercise. I stoped when I had about one and a half million left over.
LOOKS LIKE HE HAD A REALLY GOOD reason HERE, NO?
> Not sure what to tell you, but including a blurb about the fortune you stumbled across and gave away in your role might have been helpful as well...if nothing else this is becoming a classic case of 'what the role command is there for' scenario
And this is another case of, you whining abused wife, it is your fault your husband hit you, think THINK, what could you have done to avoid it?
You know, now that I think of it this analogy doesn't fit, because the wife got into the relationship, where as you just experienced a 'hit and run' while walking on the sidewalk, but YOU SHOULDN'T have left the house today, come on man think a little.
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