Posted by Shokai(IMM) on August 6, 2000 at 06:33:11:
In Reply to: Re: My take: posted by Pissed player on August 6, 2000 at 00:25:04:
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> Who says im not going to continue to seek Bt, I've been waiting for him for weeks. Waiting a couple more untill he shows up shouldnt be to hard.
> Whinning Ic gets you fucked over more in the game than anything else.
Let's define whining here, shall we? Whining is all I've seen you do so far on this thread...as I pointed out on the forum page, not having all the evidence I'll neither applaud nor damn the immortal in question. Whining consists of saying 'I've been screwed over'...dealing with the problem consists of saying 'I fucked up somewhere...I need to figure out how to fix it'.
I applaud that at least you didn't just delete the character...and hope that you truely do seek BT.
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> 2) Forget the manta-skin bracers.... the Shadow dagger? There are some items that, after inspecting them, just don't seem very Paladinly. Sac those bastards, and get something that looks good on a paladin. "Holding it for a friend" is not much better.
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> The shadow dagger, whats wrong about that ?
> It can be worn by good alins, it doesnt even have a red aura. If your gonna dig up shit like that, how about these, Phylacterys, strage bracers, rings of fortitude All the pieces from hell.
> If you can wear it there should be nothing wrong with it.
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Can be worn by goods? Well sure, charred bracers *can* be worn by ragers...will you see a rager wearing one? Not bloody likely. What Proud Blade was trying to point out (I think) is that there are some items that regardless of if they have anti_good flags on them...should probably not be worn by goods...there are a few things like that with evils, but as we all know...evils have a slightly easier ride on the justification boat. I'll give you another example..let's assume that a new item goes in the game that everyone can wear...and it's 'a blood-stained vest of sewn storm giant hide'...if I ever saw anyone who wanted to be a Maran wearing it....they'd be nailed right there for it. Just because the game will allow you to do something doesn't mean you should. I'm not saying that there is or isn't anything wrong with the shadow dagger, just saying that description clues...and roleplay should also define your equipment...not just game mechanics.
> And for your Information I had only just got that dagger cause the thief i was with did actually lose his link whilst we were fighting kazz.
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> The crimson tail I can also use , shrug, I was holding it for a IC friend. There anything wrong with that ?, If you have a dwarf friend and you come by a piece of pwent which he might like, Is that bad to hold onto it for him ?
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> Your also like the ignorant Imm who un-empowered me, Makeing assumptions without even realising my Rp. For all you know I could have a mental complex that requires me to have a shadow dagger on me whenever able
> To gather them so that I might trade them for a soul of a lost one or some shit.
> It could be a quest item *COUGH*.
> You knew nothing yet assume all.
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> 2b) Actually, don't forget the mantas. That -is- a pretty weak excuse. You want evil artifacts near so you are reminded that evil exists?
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> I wanted a piece of eq for my Rp that would serve as a constant reminder of a occourance.
> That was the only purpose. I could have removed the taint anytime I wanted to. Id rped with all the other paladins who asked about them. They all seemed to understand.
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again, add it to your role. The basic way that a role should work, IMHO is that anything of importance...anything slightly odd, quirky, or off color about your character should go there. Mannerisms, paticular dislikes/likes...etc...stick it in the role.
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> 3) There's not enough context here to figure out what went on. For all we know, you were off killing Balator orphans. It looked to me that whichever IMM spoke to you had it in for you from the beginning. I somehow doubt an IMM was lounging around Asgaard, looking for Paladins at random to fuck over. My guess: You fucked up beforehand, and didn't even realize it. Maybe I'm wrong, but the part where the IMM says "I speak of a lot of things." strikes me as ominous.
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> I congratulate you , your starting to think alot broader, there are always allterior influencing factors.
> I've been cfing since purge, I know that I didnt fuck up. I hadnt pked killed or done anything since I had loged in. I've been level sitting doing sweet fuck all waiting for Bt for the past couple weeks.
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I'll take your word for it, but in all honesty...I just don't see anyone on the imm staff fucking up someone else's empoweree for shits and giggles. I know it's a nice theory, but having worked with the people on the imm staff...*shrug* I really can't see it happening.
> Also for your random paladin to fuck over theory.. If I had done something else, Why did the Immortal not mention that I had killed orphans or something like that.
> Your argue is nullified in that respect.
> The Immortal gave the reasons as to why, and was incredibly wrong in doing so.
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A common theme I'm seeing here...is you blaming the immortal while swearing that you're as pure as a white lilly blooming in a virgin forest. I'm not going to argue with you since I don't know/want to know your character's name, history, yada yada yada. I will however point you to the aforementioned doubtfulness of random immortal fuck-over.
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> 4) As far as greed, we have no idea what's in your backpack or bank account, other than the fact that it was once 47 million gold coins. How a Paladin got to 47 million gold coins without ignoring good ol' Code Rule #2 is a bit beyond me.
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> Okay as for greed, Whoopy doo
> Shit in my backpack... ROFL
> dude how much elite eq or bs shit can you put in a backpack.. Do rember nothing limited.... Laugh.
> My current bank account was about 500k or so.
> the 47 million came from a level 37 duergar warrior who had 3 wide coppers 3 sets of pwent and a bunch of other shit, he was just full to the brim with hoarded eq.
> I think I managed to blow about 5 million in 1 hour at the Inn, I gave away to everyone I knew IC about 500k or so each. I droped chucnks of million randomly around galadon and had a fun time with a Gold put hunting exercise. I stoped when I had about one and a half million left over.
Not sure what to tell you, but including a blurb about the fortune you stumbled across and gave away in your role might have been helpful as well...if nothing else this is becoming a classic case of 'what the role command is there for' scenario
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> What shocks me more tho is that your a VIP and yet dont know that a mere 1 million gold can be pissed down the drain in 10 hours of playing easily
> when you start munching pills and potions running around, constanly keeping yourself enlarged flying etc etc etc.
> You chew cash, now ontop of that you dont have time to sleep, so you run to the healer, heal heal, heal ref, heal mana
> Boy there goes 100k real easily
> With the character that i speak of I used to spend almost a solid hour each day money running so i could survive the next 9 hours of playing without haveing to run out of cash.
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> What do you want me to do, Start donating gold to empire ?
> really.
now you're back to whining again.
(hey bonus...two songs in a Shok post)
"It's hard to imagine that nothing
could be so exciting, could be so much fun
Heaven...heaven is a place,
a place where nothing,
nothing ever happens..."
- Talking Heads