and the immortals expect us to trust them *log included*

and the immortals expect us to trust them *log included*:
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Posted by Brad Mark on October 9, 2000 at 10:02:24:

Time to throw in the towel. I have noticed over the years the lack of concern the immortals have for the people who play this mud. One character to the next they find a way to judge the person behind the screen and if you want to be judged like that by all means continue to spend your time here people. I tried to handle this like a human being but it looks like power trips are essential to being an immortal. I am not judging them all in this fashion but some of the immortals are rash, hot-headed bastards that really do enjoy ruining hours of work. Take a moment to think about it and realize that until it happens to you it probably is not a concern. When it happens constantly it becomes one. Here is a hearty fuck you to the immortal staff and this game.

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<429hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'Not when Vithrandra was fighting the Battlerager.'

<438hp 816m 447mv> <438hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says '(Ginue)'

<438hp 816m 447mv> 'I still don't get it. I was there talking to Vithrandra because she wanted me to loot a scimitar for her.
You say 'I still don't get it. I was there talking to Vithrandra because she wanted me to loot a scimitar for her.'

<452hp 816m 447mv> <452hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'Out of the blue your newbie friend shows up and starts spamming the door shut with you.'

<452hp 816m 447mv> 'She summoned the rager to the stump. Said 'loot the scimitar'
You say 'She summoned the rager to the stump. Said 'loot the scimitar''

<459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says '(which is odd because he was nowhere near there moments before)'

<459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'odder yet, because he can't loot'

<459hp 816m 447mv> eyeb
You raise an eyebrow at the notion.

<459hp 816m 447mv> 'I hate to be sarcastic, but you've got to be kidding me.
You say 'I hate to be sarcastic, but you've got to be kidding me.'

<459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'Nope.'

<470hp 816m 447mv> 'One: Vithrandra was at the lane, so was I trying to fight a warder.
You say 'One: Vithrandra was at the lane, so was I trying to fight a warder.'

<470hp 816m 447mv> 'Two: Wimcamar, or whoever that is, where does he fit into this questioning?

An Immortal says 'He then changes sides and starts telling Warders where Vith is. So when Vith asks you for help (when he gets into trouble) you say, "Be right there! I'll teleport nearby" and then proceed to practice spells in the White Tower instead'

You say 'Two: Wimcamar, or whoever that is, where does he fit into this questioning?'

<480hp 816m 447mv> 'Your exactly right I wasn't going to save Vithrandra.
You say 'Your exactly right I wasn't going to save Vithrandra. '

<480hp 816m 447mv> 'My role is not to put myself in danger for the expense of others.
You say 'My role is not to put myself in danger for the expense of others.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> 'That's how I play and have been playing this character.

An Immortal says 'Thing is, you didn't know there was danger.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv> You say 'That's how I play and have been playing this character.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> 'Miiot was in the forest.
You say 'Miiot was in the forest.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> 'I said that over the cabal channel
You say 'I said that over the cabal channel'

<490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'He said Miiot was in town.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'Not the forest.'

<490hp 816m 447mv> 'and how am I supposed to believe that?
You say 'and how am I supposed to believe that?'

<499hp 816m 447mv> 'the necromancer is about to die, and where there is one warder in the forest, there are likely to be others.
You say 'the necromancer is about to die, and where there is one warder in the forest, there are likely to be others.'

<499hp 816m 447mv> 'I've died numerous times to warders. I'm not going to put myself in jeopardy because Vithrandra got herself in a bind.
You say 'I've died numerous times to warders. I'm not going to put myself in jeopardy because Vithrandra got herself in a bind.'

<507hp 816m 447mv> <507hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'That's all about to end.'

<514hp 816m 447mv> eyeb
You raise an eyebrow at the notion.

<521hp 816m 447mv> 'Because I didn't go save a cabalmate your going to delete me?
You say 'Because I didn't go save a cabalmate your going to delete me?'

<521hp 816m 447mv> <521hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'No. I'm deleting you for character mixing, and communication outside of the game.'

<530hp 816m 447mv> 'Oh?
You say 'Oh?'

<530hp 816m 447mv> <530hp 816m 447mv>

An Immortal says 'Say goodnight.'

<530hp 816m 447mv> <530hp 816m 447mv>

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New character.

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The Carrion Fields MUD is a player-killing battlefield. Object numbers are

limited, so you will have to kill your neighbor for that nice sword. Players

usually join Cabals for protection and power, each with a home headquarters.

Each Cabal holds a precious item that it must defend from intruders. Role-

playing is mandatory here, which means that you are expected to play a

*character*, not just yourself. Expect to die, and don't take it too

personally. Enjoy your stay!

See: HELP ROLEPLAYINGSee: HELP ROLEPLAYING and all the help files listed on the MOTD

The following races are available:

human elf dwarf storm cloud fire half-elf dark-elf arial gnome felar svirfnebli duergar wood-elf

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That is not a valid race.

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What is your race? (help for more information) dark elf
That is not a valid race.

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What is your race? (help for more information) dark-elf
What is your sex (M/F)? m
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Here are the classes and their extra cost per level.

For more information, type "help ".

Class Description Experience Penalties

-------------------------------------------------------------

Warrior weapons specialist 0 exp extra per level.

Thief standard class 0 exp extra per level.

Shaman offensive cleric 0 exp extra per level.

Healer defensive cleric 0 exp extra per level.

Druid nature clerDruid nature cleric 0 exp extra per level.

Transmuter shapeshifter mage 0 exp extra per level.

Necromancer undead-master mage 0 exp extra per level.

Invoker elemental mage 0 exp extra per level.

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Select a class:

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Strength: A combat stat. Effects to a small degree how often you hit, how hard

you hit, how heavy of weapon(s) you may wield, and how much gear

you may carry.

Intelligence: Affects how much mana per level you gain, how effectively you

practice, how much mana you regenerate per tick, and to a certain

extent, how quickly you learn your skills/spells/songs with each use.

Wisdom: Determines how many practices you gain peWisdom: Determines how many practices you gain per level. Also affects mana

gain per level to a small degree.

Dexterity: Affects how many items you may carry, how hard you are to hit to a

certain degree, and your dodging potential.

Constitution: Affects your health, and how quickly you regenerate it.

-- read 'help death' for more on con.

Charisma: Affects how well you relate with others.

See also STATS2 for more on stats.

Now rolling for your stats (8-18+).

You don't get many trains, so choose well.

You won't be able to train your chaYou won't be able to train your charisma.

18str 15int 11wis 20dex 10con 9chr Accept these values (Y/N)?y

Your character has evil tendencies.

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You can pick one of many cities as your hometown: Hamsah Mu'tazz, Galadon,

Arial City, Seantryn Modan, Balator, and Bryn Shandar are all alignments,

Tar Valon, Akan, and Ofcol are good and neutral only, Darsylon is good

only, and Arkham, Udgaard and Barovia are evil and neutral only. Your

hometown is where you will recall to (unless it is one of the smaller

cities and you have been fighting too recently) and is where the pit is to

which your corpse will decay.

EEveryone starts at the Academy, which is connected to most of the hometowns.

If you wish to change your hometown, visit the registry in Galadon. There is

fee for this service.

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Directions to reach the Registry in Galadon from the Market Square are:

4north, 2east, 2north, 2west, 1north, 1east, 1south and then you are there.

Where were you born?

[G]aladon, Hamsah Mu'taz[Z], [A]rkham? g

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That is not a valid ethos.

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MOTD

09/11 New SUICIDE command. Read the HELP file.

05/21 The paladin class has seen substantial revisions. Read the help on

PALADIN, PALADIN CODE, and DEDICATE.

04/07 HELPs added for the INVOKE and USE commands.

02/04 Read the new wording about "perma-groups" under help RULES. If you think

this wording addition is about you, it probably is.

01/16 The wood-elf race is in. Read the help on WOOD-ELF.

01/10 Role command in. Read the help on ROLE.

01/03 New here? Get more help from immortals.
See help on 'NEWBIE CHANNEL'

12/21 Changes to ghosts are in. Read the help on DEATH and RECALL.

11/26 ENGLISH units of weight have been updated. Read the help.

10/31 The AREAS command has been changed. Read the help.
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CABAL ROLEPLAYING PLAYERKILLING REALISM CARRION DEATH MOTD WHO AREAS

EXPERIENCE PHILOSOPHY WIZLIST LAWS RULES HELP ALIGNMENT TIPS NEWBIE

AGE PRAY PASSWORD DESCRIPTION SHRINE STORY NEWBIE2 NOEXIT PFILE

BARDNOTES SPHERE RELIGION TAT

TOO NEWAGE EMPOWERMENT RECENT PAY ILLNESS

'NEWBIE CHANNEL' SUICIDE

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[Hit Return to continue]

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=========> READ THE MOTD - LAST MODIFIED: 09/11/2000 <=========

[Hit Return to continue]

Welcome to The Carrion Fields. Let the bloodshed begin!

It is 9 o'clock PM, Day of Deception, 30th of the Month of the Great Evil.

You have been equipped by the gods.

'NEWBIE INFO' NEWBIE

Ah! Another mortal, seeking adventure. You should go through the Academy

first, to gain experience to face the trials outside. Be sure to practice a

weapon first in the guild room, or your stay with us shall be very short

indeed. Type 'equipment' to see what your are wielding, 'spells' to see your

spells, 'skills' to see your skspells, 'skills' to see your skills, 'rehearse' for bards, and 'commands' for

a list of commands. Help is available on all commands and abilities. It is

strongly recommended that you go through all the helps at a low level,

especially for first time mudders. (99.9% of questions are answered in the

help files.) Also, you can type 'outfit' during your first five levels to

get some basic equipment and maps.

For more Info, type HELP NEWBIE2.

See also: HELP NEWBIE CHANNEL

The Great Portal

You are floating in a dry mist of grey. There is no time You are floating in a dry mist of grey. There is no time here. There is no

distance here. There is only here. You exist. That is all.

Suddenly a blinding line of blackness tears through the non-reality before

you. A glowing portal opens into the nothingness, creating a reality within

itself. A hidden form comes from the portal and you begin to know.

"Traveler, I bring you salvation. I restore you to creation and bring you a

new existence. But know this.... The existence that you knew before this is

gone. You are only how you exist here. Bring nothing of the Otgone. You are only how you exist here. Bring nothing of the Otherworlds with

you for we go to a place of enchantment and wonder, and the Otherworld has no

place here. You are born now to Thera. Go north at the Gates of the Academy

to learn of your new existence and leave all other thoughts behind. Be sure

to read all of the signs...."

The Hidden Lord fades away.

[Exits: down]

(Glowing) A torch that burns with a magical flame.

( 3) A rolled up map is here.

A roll of parchment floats here.

You have 20 new notes waiting.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> pray May I speak to an Implimentor please.
You pray to the heavens for help!

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> recall
The Dark Temple

This large, cold temple seems to sit over your head with a brooding

silence. Hideous statues line the walls, some looking very life-like with

expressions of horror on their faces. At the northern end of the temple,

the torches around the altar seem as though they can barely penetrate the

darkness. You can escape out into the somewhat fresh air of the temple

square to the west.

[Exits: north west]

<100%hp 100%m 50%mv> sit
You sit down.

<100%hp 100%m 50%mv> who im

Players found: 0

<100%hp 100%m 50%mv> <100%hp 100%m 50%mv>

An Immortal has transferred you.

The Realm of the Dead

You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you

can see in all directions. Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky

tear savagely at your fragile body.

[Exits: north east south west]

<100%hp 100%m 50%mv> <100%hp 100%m 50%mv>

An Immortal says 'Problem?'

<100%hp 100%m 50%mv> nod
You nod.

<100%hp 100%m 60%mv> 'Yes, there is.
You say 'Yes, there is.'

<100%hp 100%m 60%mv> color
l
Your color is now ON.

<100%hp 100%m 60%mv> <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> The Realm of the Dead

You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you

can see in all directions. Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky

tear savagely at your fragile body.

[Exits: north east south west]

<100%hp 100%m 60%mv> 'My previous character gets denied on account that someone has a vendetta.
You say 'My previous character gets denied on account that someone has a vendetta.'

<100%hp 100%m 70%mv> <100%hp 100%m 70%mv>

An Immortal says 'A vendetta?'

<100%hp 100%m 70%mv> 'Apparently so. I'm said to be sharing outside information with someone, so I'd like to know why I'm denied on a whim.
You say 'Apparently so. I'm said to be sharing outside information with someone, so I'd like to know why I'm denied on a whim.'

<100%hp 100%m 90%mv> <100%hp 100%m 90%mv>

An Immortal says 'Sharing information outside the game is against the rules.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I know this.
You say 'I know this.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'Then what's the problem?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'm accused of sharing information because I did not go and save my cabalmate.
You say 'I'm accused of sharing information because I did not go and save my cabalmate.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Hours and hours spent on a character to be denied without even being given a chance to defend myself. Why? Because some lowbie probably from my site was near the same area as me.
You say 'Hours and hours spent on a character to be denied without even being given a chance to defend myself. Why? Because some lowbie probably from my site was near the same area as me.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'So, I'd like to know why I'm being punished for what I consider to be a vendetta. Since I'm almost positive this would have been handled differently in another immortals hands.

An Immortal says 'Then that's different than being denied for not saving a cabalmate.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> You say 'So, I'd like to know why I'm being punished for what I consider to be a vendetta. Since I'm almost positive this would have been handled differently in another immortals hands.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> nod
You nod.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'A vendetta for what, though?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'd like to see where this 'communication outside of the game' is coming from.
You say 'I'd like to see where this 'communication outside of the game' is coming from.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'I'm asking what vendetta?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'To be denied for something that impossibly stupid, with nothing to even stand on, means that someone has something against me up her.
You say 'To be denied for something that impossibly stupid, with nothing to even stand on, means that someone has something against me up her.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'here.
You say 'here. '

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'How would I know? But I know something is wrong since I'm denied for something that has no basis.
You say 'How would I know? But I know something is wrong since I'm denied for something that has no basis.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'If characters are communicating outside the game, and are benefitting from it (in this case a low level character getting equipment from a high level kill) then yes, that's a punishable rules violation.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Ok, here's what I don't get.
You say 'Ok, here's what I don't get.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'Rules are rules whether you agree with them or not.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'This lowbie right? can't loot. So If I let someone die, how is it my fault?
You say 'This lowbie right? can't loot. So If I let someone die, how is it my fault?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Rules are rules when they apply to everyone.
You say 'Rules are rules when they apply to everyone.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'This is personal, or someone is trying to make it personal.
You say 'This is personal, or someone is trying to make it personal.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'how am I letting someone benefit if this lowbie can't loot a corpse?
You say 'how am I letting someone benefit if this lowbie can't loot a corpse?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'and how am I not looking out for my own best interests if I don't go running into an ambush of warders?
You say 'and how am I not looking out for my own best interests if I don't go running into an ambush of warders?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'I'm supposed to tell you "*spit*".'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'And you immortals don't have people talking to you left and right?
You say 'And you immortals don't have people talking to you left and right?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'do you deny one another because you think they might be sharing information?
You say 'do you deny one another because you think they might be sharing information?'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'We're talking about you.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I've had a number of people try to talk to me, and I either avoid them or don't answer.
You say 'I've had a number of people try to talk to me, and I either avoid them or don't answer.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'You said rules were rules...only if they apply to everyone.
You say 'You said rules were rules...only if they apply to everyone.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'If rules are meant to be broken, to spite someone else then there is a problem here.
You say 'If rules are meant to be broken, to spite someone else then there is a problem here.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'I agree with you. If an immortal cheats, they should be denied as well.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'So, I'd like to speak to an Imp. Otherwise I'll handle this with e-mail and a log.
You say 'So, I'd like to speak to an Imp. Otherwise I'll handle this with e-mail and a log.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'because obviously someone has something against me to be trying to 'find' and excuse to deny me.
You say 'because obviously someone has something against me to be trying to 'find' and excuse to deny me.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'Then I suggest you send your e-mail and log.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> nod
You nod.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Might as well get out in the open and let me know what the problem is.
You say 'Might as well get out in the open and let me know what the problem is.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I should add that information to the e-mail also.
You say 'I should add that information to the e-mail also.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'Do whatever you like. I'd be sure and send it from this account as well, so we can verify your identity.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> shrug
You shrug.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'ie, no anonymous accounts'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'or it'll be ignored'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'll make sure to send you my drivers license and a picture also.
You say 'I'll make sure to send you my drivers license and a picture also.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

An Immortal says 'That would be good.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Maybe a box of cookies to make you feel better about being the asshole you are.
You say 'Maybe a box of cookies to make you feel better about being the asshole you are.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv>

You are denied access!

Awaiting the hour of reprisal, your time slips away...

%%% Disconnected from server.

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So, I try to be civil about it and write the imps. I find out that they will back up one another right or wrong. They also do not give a shit about the playerbase otherwise this god would have looked into it. I won't bother to format it. I'm sure you can read between the lines:

'm still trying to fathom if that log you included was designed to help
you, or to hurt you. Nowhere, and this is especially illustrated during the
second conversation you had, were you handling the matter 'professionally'
or hell, even sensibly. And the fact that you conveniently left out a log
for the events which lead up to this doesn't help either.

Based on your reaction (and sure, I can understand why you would be upset,
but the fact that you continued the same attitude after you had time to
consider the matter enough to put it all into a coherant email), I see no
reason to further investigate. The deny command is not something we give
out to just anyone, and I trust the people who do have it. Denials are not
done on a whim, but are rather the conclusion of a series of events that
define the character.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bradly M Mark
To: ; ;
; ;

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:55 PM
Subject: Adunaphel Denied

> Imps,
> I have been playing this mud for five years now and I have continued to
> see abuse of power. At first I thought that it was the fault of the
> playerbase but now I see it turned full swing on me. If someone on your
> staff has a personal problem with someone, I would think they could at
> least have the decency to handle it professionally. I am sure you can
> look at the logs and find out exactly what I am talking about. This
> immortal that denied me believes I was cheating because I did not rush
> into a warder deathtrap to save someone from my cabal. Furthermore,
> he/she believes I had some outside interaction with a newbie and by not
> saving my cabalmate: he or she assumes my intentions were to dress the
> newbie.
>
> How could these be my intentions if this 'newbie' cannot loot?
>
> I would like to have my character restored and an apology by this
> immortal. I did nothing wrong and by reading through the logs I believe
> you can see my point. Furthermore; if there is a problem with my site,
> why not ban the site and punish everyone instead of picking out a
> character and deleting many hours of hard work. I am attaching the file
> of my conversation with the immortal in question. I do not apologize for
> my reaction at the end of the log as this person never once put my
> feelings as a human being into consideration, nor will I do the same. If
> the actions of this immortal are supported by the
> IMPs as a whole, I will gladly step away from this fine establishment and
> find another hobby to consume my time.
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Adunaphel,
> Bradly Mark
>

Have fun people. Enjoy being fucked with by these people who claim to be working hours and hours so you can have a good time.

Adunaphel - Vlladrikar - Kobaine - Feregan and many others.

Follow Ups:

You dont pay to play so quit whining...if you actually paid to play it'd be diff i AM the law 08:32:01 10/10/2000 (0)
(IMMS)News Flash, supposive Cheater Onlooker 06:01:32 10/10/2000 (12)
- Heh. Nepenthe(IMM) 10:22:28 10/10/2000 (9)
  - Re: Heh. laugh 20:42:04 10/10/2000 (8)
    - Stupid like a fox? Nepenthe(IMM) 23:17:12 10/10/2000 (7)
      - Re: Stupid like a fox? Vaik 03:59:35 10/11/2000 (6)
        
        Curse those handsome devils! (n/t) Drinks with Evil. 15:30:54 10/11/2000 (0)
        
        Thought it was "Crazy like a fox!"? (n/t) Entragin 09:45:27 10/11/2000 (4)
        
        Hence, the joke. (n/t) Forbidden Donut 11:14:05 10/11/2000 (3)
        
        Mmm... sacrelicious. (n/t) The Arcane(VIP) 14:04:13 10/11/2000 (2)
        
        Perhaps I might interest you in a Frogurt? Forbidden Donut 15:02:27 10/11/2000 (1)
        
        Homer: Can I go now? n/t Narev 20:48:12 10/11/2000 (0)
- Maybe Wicaemar isn't one of Thera's more famous cheaters. (n/t) Hrm. 10:05:53 10/10/2000 (0)
- Why post as 'onlooker', big Brad? heh 07:35:32 10/10/2000 (0)
Considering the shit you pulled as Kobaine, this doesn't surprise me in the least n/t Takashimi 21:15:06 10/9/2000 (0)
I can only hope you were the target of some vast immortal conspiracy. CF doesn't need players like you. Sandy Claws 18:34:02 10/9/2000 (0)
I have to agree with you on this one man, you got F'd. n/t Khaken 12:46:20 10/9/2000 (8)
- Where? How? Proud Blade(VIP) 13:03:06 10/9/2000 (7)
  - if you dont have all the facts PB then why the conclusion at the end???? ..coughs *bullshit* Juzrisium 18:09:04 10/9/2000 (1)
    - Did you even begin to read what I wrote? (n/t) Proud Blade(VIP) 18:16:25 10/9/2000 (0)
  - Umm.. Vaik 17:39:37 10/9/2000 (4)
    - Actually, I have some RL experience in this 'field'. Proud Blade(VIP) 17:57:47 10/9/2000 (3)
      - I resent that, please read and reply PB V, a victim of police tomfoolery in the past 10:14:09 10/10/2000 (0)
      - The real difference in situations is that the people you interviewed had time to 'think up a defense' this was pretty much spur of the moment. Me 18:12:02 10/9/2000 (1)
        
        Then I suggest you re-read the email he sent. He had time to think about that one. (n/t) Proud Blade(VIP) 18:15:38 10/9/2000 (0)
Here's a question, on a tangent, to the imms Imbrogno(VIP) 12:25:39 10/9/2000 (6)
- history of cheating Nepenthe(IMM) 12:34:19 10/9/2000 (4)
  - I got denied for my first time cheating :) Koe 18:17:56 10/10/2000 (0)
  - Sure does nt Imbrogno 13:04:50 10/9/2000 (0)
  - I just have one question, is the DIKU site a (PROB) site? (N/T) Joshu 12:36:10 10/9/2000 (1)
    - Noone really play from Diku anymore :P (N/T) Soren(VIP) 06:31:38 10/10/2000 (0)
- Going by the graatch-log, you probably shouldn't worry. More than half the hero-sites (including Shokai's mortal's site) was PROB flagged...boy...cry...wolf? (n/t) Joshu 12:29:50 10/9/2000 (0)
Happy trails to you... WALSH 12:00:33 10/9/2000 (0)
Not to be the devil's advocate... Joshu 11:52:54 10/9/2000 (0)
Please be sure to quit the Forum too. Thanks. (n/t) Drinks with Evil. 11:11:40 10/9/2000 (0)
re: or it'll be ignored An Immortal(IMM) 10:52:54 10/9/2000 (5)
- No one ever said Rozanov was a rocket scientist. Caecus, Heart of the Lion 00:54:55 10/10/2000 (0)
- *psst* Juno provides free internet access, not just e-mail as it was in the past. (nT) Whisperer 10:58:49 10/9/2000 (3)
  - Re: *psst* Juno isn't his ISP. (n/t) An Immortal(IMM) 10:59:58 10/9/2000 (2)
    - Pssst! Sebeok, nuke me please! Duke Nuke'em 13:57:41 10/11/2000 (0)
    - *psst* Okay, just wasn't sure if you knew, I dunno where he connects from (nt) Whisperer 11:02:52 10/9/2000 (0)
Now if you and Rozanov are BOTH gone, the number of caballed characters in CF should be about half what it was! n/t Wow! 10:46:40 10/9/2000 (1)
- He is Roz, chief n/t *gasp* 12:09:04 10/9/2000 (0)
Re: and the immortals expect us to trust them *log included* Vimal 10:38:41 10/9/2000 (0)
Hey! When did Cador get back?! ;-) (text) Zepachu 10:35:45 10/9/2000 (2)
- Zepachu's an Imm! Kulgan 23:10:35 10/9/2000 (1)
  - It's in the e-mail in the original post :) Check it. (n.txt) Zepachu 12:09:08 10/10/2000 (0)
naturally, I have a comment Nepenthe(IMM) 10:22:37 10/9/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> Time to throw in the towel. I have noticed over the years the lack of concern the immortals have for the people who play this mud. One character to the next they find a way to judge the person behind the screen and if you want to be judged like that by all means continue to spend your time here people. I tried to handle this like a human being but it looks like power trips are essential to being an immortal. I am not judging them all in this fashion but some of the immortals are rash, hot-headed bastards that really do enjoy ruining hours of work. Take a moment to think about it and realize that until it happens to you it probably is not a concern. When it happens constantly it becomes one. Here is a hearty fuck you to the immortal staff and this game. > > Dioxide's Log Formatter > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > <429hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'Not when Vithrandra was fighting the Battlerager.' > > > > <438hp 816m 447mv> <438hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says '(Ginue)' > > > > <438hp 816m 447mv> 'I still don't get it. I was there talking to Vithrandra because she wanted me to loot a scimitar for her. > You say 'I still don't get it. I was there talking to Vithrandra because she wanted me to loot a scimitar for her.' > > > > <452hp 816m 447mv> <452hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'Out of the blue your newbie friend shows up and starts spamming the door shut with you.' > > > > <452hp 816m 447mv> 'She summoned the rager to the stump. Said 'loot the scimitar' > You say 'She summoned the rager to the stump. Said 'loot the scimitar'' > > > > <459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says '(which is odd because he was nowhere near there moments before)' > > > > <459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'odder yet, because he can't loot' > > > > <459hp 816m 447mv> eyeb > You raise an eyebrow at the notion. > > > > <459hp 816m 447mv> 'I hate to be sarcastic, but you've got to be kidding me. > You say 'I hate to be sarcastic, but you've got to be kidding me.' > > > > <459hp 816m 447mv> <459hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'Nope.' > > > > <470hp 816m 447mv> 'One: Vithrandra was at the lane, so was I trying to fight a warder. > You say 'One: Vithrandra was at the lane, so was I trying to fight a warder.' > > > > <470hp 816m 447mv> 'Two: Wimcamar, or whoever that is, where does he fit into this questioning? > > > An Immortal says 'He then changes sides and starts telling Warders where Vith is. So when Vith asks you for help (when he gets into trouble) you say, "Be right there! I'll teleport nearby" and then proceed to practice spells in the White Tower instead' > > You say 'Two: Wimcamar, or whoever that is, where does he fit into this questioning?' > > > > <480hp 816m 447mv> 'Your exactly right I wasn't going to save Vithrandra. > You say 'Your exactly right I wasn't going to save Vithrandra. ' > > > > <480hp 816m 447mv> 'My role is not to put myself in danger for the expense of others. > You say 'My role is not to put myself in danger for the expense of others.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> 'That's how I play and have been playing this character. > > > An Immortal says 'Thing is, you didn't know there was danger.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv> You say 'That's how I play and have been playing this character.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> 'Miiot was in the forest. > You say 'Miiot was in the forest.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> 'I said that over the cabal channel > You say 'I said that over the cabal channel' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'He said Miiot was in town.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> <490hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'Not the forest.' > > > > <490hp 816m 447mv> 'and how am I supposed to believe that? > You say 'and how am I supposed to believe that?' > > > > <499hp 816m 447mv> 'the necromancer is about to die, and where there is one warder in the forest, there are likely to be others. > You say 'the necromancer is about to die, and where there is one warder in the forest, there are likely to be others.' > > > > <499hp 816m 447mv> 'I've died numerous times to warders. I'm not going to put myself in jeopardy because Vithrandra got herself in a bind. > You say 'I've died numerous times to warders. I'm not going to put myself in jeopardy because Vithrandra got herself in a bind.' > > > > <507hp 816m 447mv> <507hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'That's all about to end.' > > > > <514hp 816m 447mv> eyeb > You raise an eyebrow at the notion. > > > > <521hp 816m 447mv> 'Because I didn't go save a cabalmate your going to delete me? > You say 'Because I didn't go save a cabalmate your going to delete me?' > > > > <521hp 816m 447mv> <521hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'No. I'm deleting you for character mixing, and communication outside of the game.' > > > > <530hp 816m 447mv> 'Oh? > You say 'Oh?' > > > > <530hp 816m 447mv> <530hp 816m 447mv> > > An Immortal says 'Say goodnight.' > > > > <530hp 816m 447mv> <530hp 816m 447mv> > > You are denied access! > > [MASTER] the Archmage: The Orb of Magic dims a bit as Adunaphel leaves us. > > Awaiting the hour of reprisal, your time slips away... > > %%% Disconnected from server. > > %%% Connecting to 208.11.111.70 on port 9999. > %%% Connected to 208.11.111.70 on port 9999. > > > > > ::x. > > !MR$M> M9M5M!!XMM > > M!?XX!!RRt?M@NRX?!XMX!R Maintained by > > `!!MHXX!!Mt!MMXWMM!!! BoltThrower, Galadriel, Jullias, > > `!XM$$$R9M$RTMMX- Nepenthe, Pico, and Balgrimnr > > #$WXXW$$MXW$" > > `""!""` `""!""` Greeting screen designed by > > Zapata (bsinger1.netcom.com) > > > > By what name do you wish to be mourned? ÿüAdunphal > Did I get that right, Adunphal (Y/N)? y > New character. > > > > Here at The Carrion Fields we promote a roleplaying environment. Because of > > this atmosphere, we do not allow just any name you may want. The names must > > meet a certain criteria and if they do not, they will be denied. The following > > questions are good guidelines for determining if you have chosen an appropriate > > name. > > > > Is this name an original name as far as you know (Y/N)? y > Is this name a combination of two other names (e.g. Maryjane) (Y/N)? n > n > Is this name found in any dictionary or a common slang term (Y/N)? Is this name found in any dictionary or a common slang term (Y/N)? > > By answering as you have to the previous questions you have claimed that your > > name is completely legitimate in our fantasy world. If you have lied in the > > previous questions and we deem your name unfit you will be denied without > > warning. This is your last chance. > > > > Are you sure this name is acceptable (Y/N)? y > > > May your stay in The Carrion Fields be memorable. > > Please choose a password for Adunphal: ÿûplease > > > Please retype password: please > > > ÿüCARRION 'CARRION FIELDS' > > The Carrion Fields MUD is a player-killing battlefield. Object numbers are > > limited, so you will have to kill your neighbor for that nice sword. Players > > usually join Cabals for protection and power, each with a home headquarters. > > Each Cabal holds a precious item that it must defend from intruders. Role- > > playing is mandatory here, which means that you are expected to play a > > character, not just yourself. Expect to die, and don't take it too > > personally. Enjoy your stay! > > See: HELP ROLEPLAYINGSee: HELP ROLEPLAYING and all the help files listed on the MOTD > > The following races are available: > > human elf dwarf storm cloud fire half-elf dark-elf arial gnome felar svirfnebli duergar wood-elf > > What is your race (help for more information)? drow > That is not a valid race. > > The following races are available: > > human elf dwarf storm cloud fire half-elf dark-elf arial gnome felar svirfnebli duergar wood-elf > > What is your race? (help for more information) dark elf > That is not a valid race. > > The following races are available: > > human elf dwarf storm cloud fire half-elf dark-elf arial gnome felar svirfnebli duergar wood-elf > > What is your race? (help for more information) dark-elf > What is your sex (M/F)? m > 'CLASS HELP' 'CLASS' 'CLASSES' > > Here are the classes and their extra cost per level. > > For more information, type "help ". > > > > Class Description Experience Penalties > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Warrior weapons specialist 0 exp extra per level. > > Thief standard class 0 exp extra per level. > > Shaman offensive cleric 0 exp extra per level. > > Healer defensive cleric 0 exp extra per level. > > Druid nature clerDruid nature cleric 0 exp extra per level. > > Transmuter shapeshifter mage 0 exp extra per level. > > Necromancer undead-master mage 0 exp extra per level. > > Invoker elemental mage 0 exp extra per level. > > Conjurer extraplanar mage 0 exp extra per level. > > Ranger forest warrior 200 exp extra per level. > > Bard musician 300 exp extra per level. > > Assassin thief/martial artist 300 exp extra per level. > > Anti-Paladin unholy warrior/mage 300 exp extAnti-Paladin unholy warrior/mage 300 exp extra per level. > > Paladin holy warrior/cleric 400 exp extra per level. > > > > Anyone new to Carrion Fields, especially if you are new to mudding is > > advised not to pick either paladins, shamans, healers, or druids. > Select a class: > > [ transmuter thief warrior anti-paladin assassin invoker necromancer shaman healer conjurer ]: transmuter > STATS STRENGTH INTELLIGENCE DEXTERITY WISDOM CONSTITUTION CHARISMA > > Strength: A combat stat. Effects to a small degree how often you hit, how hard > > you hit, how heavy of weapon(s) you may wield, and how much gear > > you may carry. > > Intelligence: Affects how much mana per level you gain, how effectively you > > practice, how much mana you regenerate per tick, and to a certain > > extent, how quickly you learn your skills/spells/songs with each use. > > Wisdom: Determines how many practices you gain peWisdom: Determines how many practices you gain per level. Also affects mana > > gain per level to a small degree. > > Dexterity: Affects how many items you may carry, how hard you are to hit to a > > certain degree, and your dodging potential. > > Constitution: Affects your health, and how quickly you regenerate it. > > -- read 'help death' for more on con. > > Charisma: Affects how well you relate with others. > > > > See also STATS2 for more on stats. > > > > Now rolling for your stats (8-18+). > > You don't get many trains, so choose well. > > You won't be able to train your chaYou won't be able to train your charisma. > > 18str 15int 11wis 20dex 10con 9chr Accept these values (Y/N)?y > > > Your character has evil tendencies. > > HOMETOWN HOMETOWNS > > You can pick one of many cities as your hometown: Hamsah Mu'tazz, Galadon, > > Arial City, Seantryn Modan, Balator, and Bryn Shandar are all alignments, > > Tar Valon, Akan, and Ofcol are good and neutral only, Darsylon is good > > only, and Arkham, Udgaard and Barovia are evil and neutral only. Your > > hometown is where you will recall to (unless it is one of the smaller > > cities and you have been fighting too recently) and is where the pit is to > > which your corpse will decay. > > > > EEveryone starts at the Academy, which is connected to most of the hometowns. > > If you wish to change your hometown, visit the registry in Galadon. There is > > fee for this service. > > > > Some of these hometowns are race-specific as well. > > > > Directions to reach the Registry in Galadon from the Market Square are: > > 4north, 2east, 2north, 2west, 1north, 1east, 1south and then you are there. > > > > Where were you born? > > [G]aladon, Hamsah Mu'taz[Z], [A]rkham? g > > > Which ethos do you want to follow, Lawful, Neutral or Chaotic? (or type help) e > > > That is not a valid ethos. > > What ethos do you want, (L/N/C)? c > [Press Return to Continue] > > > > MOTD > > > > 09/11 New SUICIDE command. Read the HELP file. > > > > 05/21 The paladin class has seen substantial revisions. Read the help on > > PALADIN, PALADIN CODE, and DEDICATE. > > > > 04/07 HELPs added for the INVOKE and USE commands. > > > > 02/04 Read the new wording about "perma-groups" under help RULES. If you think > > this wording addition is about you, it probably is. > > > > 01/16 The wood-elf race is in. Read the help on WOOD-ELF. > > > > 01/10 Role command in. Read the help on ROLE. > > > > 01/03 New here? Get more help from immortals. > See help on 'NEWBIE CHANNEL' > > > > 12/21 Changes to ghosts are in. Read the help on DEATH and RECALL. > > > > 11/26 ENGLISH units of weight have been updated. Read the help. > > > > 10/31 The AREAS command has been changed. Read the help. > [Hit Return to continue] > > > > > 08/29 Conjurers are in. Send a note to Immortal if you find any bugs. > > > > The Official Carrion Fields home page can be found at: > > http://www.carrionfields.org/ Please take a moment and read about > > how you can help support the mud. > > > > Descriptions are** Descriptions are mandatory; they help define your role. Names > > and backgrounds should be explained in your desc. The sooner the better. > > > > The answer to 99% of frequently asked questions is located in the > > help files somewhere. Help to read (by typing 'help '): > > > > CABAL ROLEPLAYING PLAYERKILLING REALISM CARRION DEATH MOTD WHO AREAS > > EXPERIENCE PHILOSOPHY WIZLIST LAWS RULES HELP ALIGNMENT TIPS NEWBIE > > AGE PRAY PASSWORD DESCRIPTION SHRINE STORY NEWBIE2 NOEXIT PFILE > > BARDNOTES SPHERE RELIGION TAT > > TOO NEWAGE EMPOWERMENT RECENT PAY ILLNESS > > 'NEWBIE CHANNEL' SUICIDE > > > > You are responsible for understanding and obeying the rules 'help rules'. > > Ignorance is NOT an excuse. Multi-charing is not allowed here. > > [Hit Return to continue] > > Keep yourself up on these rules. > > > > =========> READ THE MOTD - LAST MODIFIED: 09/11/2000 <========= > > [Hit Return to continue] > > > > Welcome to The Carrion Fields. Let the bloodshed begin! > > It is 9 o'clock PM, Day of Deception, 30th of the Month of the Great Evil. > > You have been equipped by the gods. > > > > 'NEWBIE INFO' NEWBIE > > Ah! Another mortal, seeking adventure. You should go through the Academy > > first, to gain experience to face the trials outside. Be sure to practice a > > weapon first in the guild room, or your stay with us shall be very short > > indeed. Type 'equipment' to see what your are wielding, 'spells' to see your > > spells, 'skills' to see your skspells, 'skills' to see your skills, 'rehearse' for bards, and 'commands' for > > a list of commands. Help is available on all commands and abilities. It is > > strongly recommended that you go through all the helps at a low level, > > especially for first time mudders. (99.9% of questions are answered in the > > help files.) Also, you can type 'outfit' during your first five levels to > > get some basic equipment and maps. > > > > For more Info, type HELP NEWBIE2. > > See also: HELP NEWBIE CHANNEL > > > > The Great Portal > > You are floating in a dry mist of grey. There is no time You are floating in a dry mist of grey. There is no time here. There is no > > distance here. There is only here. You exist. That is all. > > > > Suddenly a blinding line of blackness tears through the non-reality before > > you. A glowing portal opens into the nothingness, creating a reality within > > itself. A hidden form comes from the portal and you begin to know. > > > > "Traveler, I bring you salvation. I restore you to creation and bring you a > > new existence. But know this.... The existence that you knew before this is > > gone. You are only how you exist here. Bring nothing of the Otgone. You are only how you exist here. Bring nothing of the Otherworlds with > > you for we go to a place of enchantment and wonder, and the Otherworld has no > > place here. You are born now to Thera. Go north at the Gates of the Academy > > to learn of your new existence and leave all other thoughts behind. Be sure > > to read all of the signs...." > > > > The Hidden Lord fades away. > > > > [Exits: down] > > (Glowing) A torch that burns with a magical flame. > > ( 3) A rolled up map is here. > > A roll of parchment floats here. > > > > You have 20 new notes waiting. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> pray May I speak to an Implimentor please. > You pray to the heavens for help! > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> recall > The Dark Temple > > This large, cold temple seems to sit over your head with a brooding > > silence. Hideous statues line the walls, some looking very life-like with > > expressions of horror on their faces. At the northern end of the temple, > > the torches around the altar seem as though they can barely penetrate the > > darkness. You can escape out into the somewhat fresh air of the temple > > square to the west. > > > > [Exits: north west] > > > > <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> sit > You sit down. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> who im > > > Players found: 0 > > > > <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> > > An Immortal has transferred you. > > The Realm of the Dead > > You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you > > can see in all directions. Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky > > tear savagely at your fragile body. > > > > [Exits: north east south west] > > > > <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Problem?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 50%mv> nod > You nod. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> 'Yes, there is. > You say 'Yes, there is.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> color > l > Your color is now ON. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> The Realm of the Dead > > You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you > > can see in all directions. Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky > > tear savagely at your fragile body. > > > > [Exits: north east south west] > > > > <100%hp 100%m 60%mv> 'My previous character gets denied on account that someone has a vendetta. > You say 'My previous character gets denied on account that someone has a vendetta.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 70%mv> <100%hp 100%m 70%mv> > > An Immortal says 'A vendetta?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 70%mv> 'Apparently so. I'm said to be sharing outside information with someone, so I'd like to know why I'm denied on a whim. > You say 'Apparently so. I'm said to be sharing outside information with someone, so I'd like to know why I'm denied on a whim.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 90%mv> <100%hp 100%m 90%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Sharing information outside the game is against the rules.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I know this. > You say 'I know this.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Then what's the problem?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'm accused of sharing information because I did not go and save my cabalmate. > You say 'I'm accused of sharing information because I did not go and save my cabalmate.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Hours and hours spent on a character to be denied without even being given a chance to defend myself. Why? Because some lowbie probably from my site was near the same area as me. > You say 'Hours and hours spent on a character to be denied without even being given a chance to defend myself. Why? Because some lowbie probably from my site was near the same area as me.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'So, I'd like to know why I'm being punished for what I consider to be a vendetta. Since I'm almost positive this would have been handled differently in another immortals hands. > > > An Immortal says 'Then that's different than being denied for not saving a cabalmate.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> You say 'So, I'd like to know why I'm being punished for what I consider to be a vendetta. Since I'm almost positive this would have been handled differently in another immortals hands.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> nod > You nod. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'A vendetta for what, though?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'd like to see where this 'communication outside of the game' is coming from. > You say 'I'd like to see where this 'communication outside of the game' is coming from.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'I'm asking what vendetta?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'To be denied for something that impossibly stupid, with nothing to even stand on, means that someone has something against me up her. > You say 'To be denied for something that impossibly stupid, with nothing to even stand on, means that someone has something against me up her.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'here. > You say 'here. ' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'How would I know? But I know something is wrong since I'm denied for something that has no basis. > You say 'How would I know? But I know something is wrong since I'm denied for something that has no basis.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'If characters are communicating outside the game, and are benefitting from it (in this case a low level character getting equipment from a high level kill) then yes, that's a punishable rules violation.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Ok, here's what I don't get. > You say 'Ok, here's what I don't get.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Rules are rules whether you agree with them or not.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'This lowbie right? can't loot. So If I let someone die, how is it my fault? > You say 'This lowbie right? can't loot. So If I let someone die, how is it my fault?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Rules are rules when they apply to everyone. > You say 'Rules are rules when they apply to everyone.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'This is personal, or someone is trying to make it personal. > You say 'This is personal, or someone is trying to make it personal.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'how am I letting someone benefit if this lowbie can't loot a corpse? > You say 'how am I letting someone benefit if this lowbie can't loot a corpse?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'and how am I not looking out for my own best interests if I don't go running into an ambush of warders? > You say 'and how am I not looking out for my own best interests if I don't go running into an ambush of warders?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'I'm supposed to tell you "spit".' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'And you immortals don't have people talking to you left and right? > You say 'And you immortals don't have people talking to you left and right?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'do you deny one another because you think they might be sharing information? > You say 'do you deny one another because you think they might be sharing information?' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'We're talking about you.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I've had a number of people try to talk to me, and I either avoid them or don't answer. > You say 'I've had a number of people try to talk to me, and I either avoid them or don't answer.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'You said rules were rules...only if they apply to everyone. > You say 'You said rules were rules...only if they apply to everyone.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'If rules are meant to be broken, to spite someone else then there is a problem here. > You say 'If rules are meant to be broken, to spite someone else then there is a problem here.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'I agree with you. If an immortal cheats, they should be denied as well.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'So, I'd like to speak to an Imp. Otherwise I'll handle this with e-mail and a log. > You say 'So, I'd like to speak to an Imp. Otherwise I'll handle this with e-mail and a log.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'because obviously someone has something against me to be trying to 'find' and excuse to deny me. > You say 'because obviously someone has something against me to be trying to 'find' and excuse to deny me.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Then I suggest you send your e-mail and log.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> nod > You nod. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Might as well get out in the open and let me know what the problem is. > You say 'Might as well get out in the open and let me know what the problem is.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I should add that information to the e-mail also. > You say 'I should add that information to the e-mail also.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'Do whatever you like. I'd be sure and send it from this account as well, so we can verify your identity.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> shrug > You shrug. > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'ie, no anonymous accounts' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'or it'll be ignored' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'I'll make sure to send you my drivers license and a picture also. > You say 'I'll make sure to send you my drivers license and a picture also.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > An Immortal says 'That would be good.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 'Maybe a box of cookies to make you feel better about being the asshole you are. > You say 'Maybe a box of cookies to make you feel better about being the asshole you are.' > > > > <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> <100%hp 100%m 100%mv> > > You are denied access! > > Awaiting the hour of reprisal, your time slips away... > > %%% Disconnected from server. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > So, I try to be civil about it and write the imps. I find out that they will back up one another right or wrong. They also do not give a shit about the playerbase otherwise this god would have looked into it. I won't bother to format it. I'm sure you can read between the lines: > > > 'm still trying to fathom if that log you included was designed to help > you, or to hurt you. Nowhere, and this is especially illustrated during the > second conversation you had, were you handling the matter 'professionally' > or hell, even sensibly. And the fact that you conveniently left out a log > for the events which lead up to this doesn't help either. > > Based on your reaction (and sure, I can understand why you would be upset, > but the fact that you continued the same attitude after you had time to > consider the matter enough to put it all into a coherant email), I see no > reason to further investigate. The deny command is not something we give > out to just anyone, and I trust the people who do have it. Denials are not > done on a whim, but are rather the conclusion of a series of events that > define the character. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bradly M Mark <bmark6@juno.com> > To: <Boltthrower@carrionfields.org>; <Jullias@carrionfields.org>; > <Galadriel@carrionfields.org>; <Balgrimnr@carrionfields.org>; > <Pico@carrionfields.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:55 PM > Subject: Adunaphel Denied > > > > Imps, > > I have been playing this mud for five years now and I have continued to > > see abuse of power. At first I thought that it was the fault of the > > playerbase but now I see it turned full swing on me. If someone on your > > staff has a personal problem with someone, I would think they could at > > least have the decency to handle it professionally. I am sure you can > > look at the logs and find out exactly what I am talking about. This > > immortal that denied me believes I was cheating because I did not rush > > into a warder deathtrap to save someone from my cabal. Furthermore, > > he/she believes I had some outside interaction with a newbie and by not > > saving my cabalmate: he or she assumes my intentions were to dress the > > newbie. > > > > How could these be my intentions if this 'newbie' cannot loot? > > > > I would like to have my character restored and an apology by this > > immortal. I did nothing wrong and by reading through the logs I believe > > you can see my point. Furthermore; if there is a problem with my site, > > why not ban the site and punish everyone instead of picking out a > > character and deleting many hours of hard work. I am attaching the file > > of my conversation with the immortal in question. I do not apologize for > > my reaction at the end of the log as this person never once put my > > feelings as a human being into consideration, nor will I do the same. If > > the actions of this immortal are supported by the > > IMPs as a whole, I will gladly step away from this fine establishment and > > find another hobby to consume my time. > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > Adunaphel, > > Bradly Mark > > > > > Have fun people. Enjoy being fucked with by these people who claim to be working hours and hours so you can have a good time. > > Adunaphel - Vlladrikar - Kobaine - Feregan and many others.

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