Posted by Graatch (Also VIP, and also lazy at the office) on January 20, 2000 at 13:02:05:

In Reply to: Now you're just nitpicking. Here. posted by The Arcane(VIP, but lazy) on January 20, 2000 at 10:44:06:

> > 730 base mana?? What mages are *you* rolling? I gotta get me one of them.

> I think we're talking a gnome mage who trains all hp.

That's still a bit much, and assume the *perfect* life, no deaths, etc. But alright.

> Let's pretend 500hp, alright?

> > > +40 (2 sandy brown desert cloaks or blood-soaked capes) = 770

> > Two sandy brown desert cloaks, sure, I can see that.

> > > +40 (2 pitch black rings) = 810

> > Doable, yeah, though not very easy for some mages, especially if the man at arms is by the gate, so the invoker can't really use area spells.

> Give me a break... any hero mage can get PB rings in a second. And there's about 8 man-at-arms, some of which are nowhere near the gates. And even if it is at the gate, the gate guards would die in one fireball--they're like level 10.

I'd like to see an arcane muter fight a man at arms. Even naked invokers have a bit of trouble, but they can flee and rest and kill him in time, sure.

> Alright... here's me starting over... to prove a point, a 100% non-limited hp suit, for a neutral mage:

> 2x pitch-black ring = 40
> 2x sandy brown desert cloak = 40
> black chainmail = 30
> mithril helmet = 15
> snow worm leggings = 15
> firewalker boots = 30

You're on crack, right? A lone mage, mostly naked, getting the boots by himself? Let's not apply the "Challen" standard to the rest of us mortals, please.

> black steel gauntlets = 15
> snow worm armguards = 15
> skin from the snow leopard = 20
> 2x jewelled golden bracelet = 40

Not that many people know these exits, let alone where and how to get them, although they are obviously there for the taking if you do.

> Wand of Orcus... er... wait... scratch that.
> snow worm shield = 20

As for all this snow worm stuff, well, sure, an invoker is going to do alright, a few fire spells and it's over, but the others? An armadillo? Arcane? Not so easy maybe. *shrug*

> Total = +280hp

> That's not shabby at all, and a level 40 character should be able to get all of that with ease, except maybe a transmuter with a non-combat minor.

> And improving upon almost all of that is easy, if you allow even "common" limited items.

Of course, there is one much easier way of getting reclothed. Loot. :P

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• moron, the perfect gnome mage has around 780hp, 730hp is a good base hp, 1 train for con on the way up and 4 trains spare (n/t) Arolin 18:04:03 1/20/2000 (0)

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