Posted by Khiravn on February 1, 2000 at 18:58:48:
In Reply to: Agreed (text) posted by Queen of all Media on February 1, 2000 at 11:47:49:
lawful. (Lawful: ie adhering to the laws of the Cabal - Chaotic: doing whatever the hell you want) <- exception here is the Entropy Cabal. The Maran are not a cabal, per se. I feel it would be nearly impossible to be both a Maran, *and* a member of an existing cabal, much like it would be very difficult to be a Scarabite and a member of a pre-existing cabal. That being said, like I said above, blah, blah, blah, 1. Being lawful does not mean following Arbiter law *anymore*. 2. Being lawful in modern CF means respecting the value of an organized society. This means if you're lawful, it is up to you to have a "valid" interpretation of the ordered society you believe in. Khiravn's interpretation of an organized society is something like the Whitecloak's idea of one (without the corruption, of course), and I'm sure most of the Maran would have similar views. Khiravn, however, doesn't care much one way or the other for civilization, so long as the people in it live for the Light. Markianise, on the other hand, believes strongly in cities who's citizens are safe within the Great Lord's Light, and he sets out to protect those cities from the corrupt, like Mithadris. If someone enters the city under Markianise's protection with intent to do evil, like Mithadris, Markianise is going to mount up and drive the miscreant out of town. That's Maran Law. Maran Law, in my mind, is just as valid as Arbiter Law or Imperial Law. And, if you read Shokai's post above, he somewhat appears to sanction it. > If Khiravn's version of 'Lawful' were true, Battle members could be lawful, follow the laws of the cabal, and attack in cities. Which - just can't happen. In order to agree with me, however, you have to agree that the now-defunct Arbiter Law does not equate being "Lawful".
I suppose if a Battlerager saw it as his personal duty not only to protect cities from magic, but also to build the cities into a civilization of physical-prowess-in-order-to-be-governor-you-have-to-kill-all-the-other-wannabes types, then he could be lawful. In general, however, great cities aren't built with the battlerager philosophy in mind, but I could see a lawful rager, yes. Someone who believe in an organized society, and saw magic as a chaotic threat to that society, much like we see pollution as a threat to ours.