Re: Insect:

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Posted by svetozar on January 12, 2000 at 10:03:26:

In Reply to: Re: Insect posted by Graatch on January 12, 2000 at 09:25:52:

ooc: The thing is that it seems that no one is traing to argue ability to insect in forest.
So your argument about wall and insect does not go anywhere couse even if it will changed
as described you still will have same combo in forest and you cannot make wall in city
anyways. So in towns and such you do not have wall and insect does not hurt you that much
couse as i said you can run/swim etc it does not do nearly as much pain
as crimsion scourage. Sylvans are to fight masters who IMHO has best power/class
combo in a game and Empire so in terms of balance it's only fair.
ic: You live in NYC and you claim that there is no insect in towns?
ohh comeone give me a brake. You can find lots of bugs in any city
and a lots of bees and such. so you have something to call :)
my 2 cents
> I agree with Amergin, I think insect swarn should only be useable in forest/wilderness type areas. Two levels to this:
> ooc: Insect is very powerful. Yes, you can still walk/run/swim. But come on, that's not something to speak of. And just because a warrior doesn't have the spell 'word of recall" in his skillset, doesn't mean he can't use potions, or be recalled by someone else, etc. Not being able to recall or teleport or magically get away at all is *serious* power. What's more, you can't sleep and regen yuour moves/hp/mana while insected. (At leas you couldn't as recently as two months ago. If that changed, so be it.) So even if you do manage to walk away, you can't get very far. And lets not forget insect inconjunction with wall of thorns. Since you can't word during combat because of insect, you *have* to try to flee, and get away by foot. But the wall doesn't let you. It hurts you. So, insect swarm is very powerful. It's a damage on the tick, like crimson sccouge. It doesn't let you get away. It doesn'tlet you sleep. That's a big, big power.

> ic: the warder is trying to literally call a *swarm* of insects from the surrounding area. You see alot of swarms hanging around main highways? On big city streets? Not likely. YOu see them in forests, in pastures maybe, in wilderness. So from an ic standpoint, they also should be limited.
> And hell, I think warders should be spending most of their time in such wilderness type places anyway, so the power should reflect that. There's no way the should be able to insect anywhere at all on the imperial lands, or in the palace, or in the master tower, or the arbiter hall, etc. Those places represent civilization, in one way or another, and are just not anyplace a swarm of biting/stinging bugs would be hanging around.

> Mark

> > > Well, you never had much problem escaping from *anything* :P

> > > Seriously, though, I could be talking out of ignorance, because I haven't fought a Warder except for one recently that I didn't want to fight for RP reasons, so my perspective could be really skewed from having *used* insect swarm and not having *fought* against it, *but*
> > > from my experience, it was a Hell of a first strike.

> > > I can think of alot of battles where I won *only* because I insected (there would have been no other way to keep them from just wording or teleporting, or whatever). In my mind, it's a huge power. And chamo, is also a huge power. And wall? Well, huge power. It seems to me that, from using insect swarm so much, it could be restricted in some way, perhaps by allowing people to still quaff potions, or make insect only usable in forests, etc. I mean, I'd hate that to happen if I was playing a Warder right now, but it seems more balanced that way.

> > >
> > Heh. You know that i do not play warder now. And that i did play warders in past
> > It seems to me that insect now is not as good as it used to be
> > it does not blow up your mana as it used to
> > it just does not let you gate/teleport/recall
> > so what? warrior cannot do it at all it's not a point
> > you can walk you can run you can swim all you need
> > is a bit of brain. Try to fight warders with character you have now
> > it can be perfectly in his role couse ... well you know
> > what i mean.. and you will see that insect is not
> > nearly as good as people think it is.


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