Posted by Gees on January 16, 2000 at 10:24:31:
In Reply to: A last few responses, the thread is getting too long. posted by Graatch on January 12, 2000 at 08:29:20:
A response from a defender's viewpoint... As a Defender, I don't get bloodthirst. So I cannot spellbane area spells. I hardly knew that it could be done. I know it used to happen in the past, but that is a different story. Also as being a defender, I'm not able to Death Blow. Another thing... mostly ALL warrior skills lag the warrior for 3 rounds.. with few exceptions like Jab with swords, and backhand with maces.. So if you area spell and I try to bash.. or pugil and miss.. you can hit me with another *** DEVASTATE *** Gees > Should a defender rager complain that a whole class can nullify them? (Invokers) > Your cone of cold === OBLITERATES === Gees! >Hey, one of my spells actually worked. That's nice to see. And lets talk numbers here. Berserkers are what,
So I'm hitting like any normal warrior can, with the armor/weapons that I've managed to get. Everytime I fight a Hero Mage he's always flying and I can't bash him. Not to mention with all of his shield protections turning my
would be MANGLES into decimates. He does an area spell that === OBLITS === or something near it. So I end up fighting a fight which I scratch away at him and he's pounding away with those spells..
before I have a chance to put in another command. So basically what I'm saying is you really don't have it as bad as you think you do, and those that have it worse...
usually don't complain as loudly.. *smirk*
> Look what you did to Gees:
> Your cone of cold *** DEMOLISHES *** Gees!
75% of the cabal? So 75% are out. Then the scouts with spell dodging, that's what, another 10%? That's alot
of people I cant really do much to. And here in your example with Gees, you completely misuse the word
"nullify". I don't nullify him, or the class of defenders. I can harm them, just like they can harm me. Those two
casts you showed mean I was sitting there for five or six rounds already. That means I got to hit him for one
oblit and one demolish, and he gets five or six rounds to sit there and hit me with 5-8 attacks, per round. And
each attack has a chance for deathblow. Oh, he's hasted, so that's more like 7-10 attacks per round, if he's
dual wielding, each with the chance for deathblow. That's the point, who can do more damage, knock off
enough hp's, faster. I did those two. he's doing it in smaller pieces, but he has alot more chances to do it.
Plush, if he uses crushing or whatever the h2h lag skill is, or cranial, or pincer, or lash, or legsweep, or
whatever, then he has even more time to do it to me, and I have fewer chances to do it to him. So lets use
nullify properly. Berserkers nullified invokers because invokes were unable to do anything. Invokers don't
nullify defenders, because defenders are pefectly capable of still doing their things, their skills, and they will
work. Whether they work *enough* to kill the invoker, is another story, and depends on his equ, his damroll,
his skill, etc etc etc.