A rant about the lich acording to D&D.

A rant about the lich acording to D&D.:
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Posted by Nobody (text) on March 6, 2000 at 17:15:04:

Alrighty then time to set a few things straight with my experiences outside of CF. Namely AD&D or D&D as it is soon to be called (again).

Remember as a DM? If you were good at it, What was one of the last creatures you would put against a party. A Lich! For the reason that it was potentially one of the most powerful creatures in the game. For hell sake they trade souls with night hags in Hades (I think thats the place or Gehenna *shrug*) for their quest for power.

And this is my point ... Liches are all about gaining power. Enough power so they themselves can become like gods and beyond. Now this lich fellow that you argue about is well with in his right to kill a hero (especially a certain arbiter) on the spot if they will interfer with its gaining of power. (i.e. entering its domain, having a presence in as so much as to make the lich uncomfortable, interfers with it activites which an arbiter would do for this certain lich yarda yarda..)

Another thing ... The reason that a lich is so powerful is either the items it has collected over the years (generally talking in thousands ... which may have to be discounted in CF. In CF terms adventuring, questing and PKing) or the different spells he has come up with over many years that the party has never seen before. (Wasn't it Shokai who was saying in a post if you roleplay enough you could get a new skill/spell.) Not to mention his hoards of undead and imps etc.. working under him. Perhaps if a PC catches it off guard he may have a chance to kill it and then there is the phylactery(never could spell it). Even a 20th level warrior could be easily brought down, but a party of 3 - 6 would make it much easier to try to kill it as it would in CF.

Generally what I am trying to say if you wish to kill a lich go with a party that is the only way and should be the only way(unfortunatley they come back to life in CF). Look I'm not trying to say I know everything about CF(I'm not as experienced as most of you, though I'm getting there.) I do know a lot in D&D (rulewise - what is it with PC's trying to argue rules saying "but he did it in this novel." *smack across the face for you*)and unless you let your PC's powerplay - you would agree a lich should be a terrible foe to come aross enough so that a high level party has a hard time not to mention one person. So on this scale in CF I think the Imms have done well with the lich.

Go ahead flame flame flame...

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Retort to you and Lady Nepenthe Uncle Bob 17:26:18 3/6/2000 (0)
Re: A rant about the lich acording to D&D. Pendragon_Surtr 17:20:17 3/6/2000 (1)
- Did you read this bit .... and then there is the phylactery or something simmilar. Don't nit pick(n/t) Nobody 18:00:51 3/6/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> Alrighty then time to set a few things straight with my experiences outside of CF. Namely AD&D or D&D as it is soon to be called (again). > > Remember as a DM? If you were good at it, What was one of the last creatures you would put against a party. A Lich! For the reason that it was potentially one of the most powerful creatures in the game. For hell sake they trade souls with night hags in Hades (I think thats the place or Gehenna shrug) for their quest for power. > > And this is my point ... Liches are all about gaining power. Enough power so they themselves can become like gods and beyond. Now this lich fellow that you argue about is well with in his right to kill a hero (especially a certain arbiter) on the spot if they will interfer with its gaining of power. (i.e. entering its domain, having a presence in as so much as to make the lich uncomfortable, interfers with it activites which an arbiter would do for this certain lich yarda yarda..) > > Another thing ... The reason that a lich is so powerful is either the items it has collected over the years (generally talking in thousands ... which may have to be discounted in CF. In CF terms adventuring, questing and PKing) or the different spells he has come up with over many years that the party has never seen before. (Wasn't it Shokai who was saying in a post if you roleplay enough you could get a new skill/spell.) Not to mention his hoards of undead and imps etc.. working under him. Perhaps if a PC catches it off guard he may have a chance to kill it and then there is the phylactery(never could spell it). Even a 20th level warrior could be easily brought down, but a party of 3 - 6 would make it much easier to try to kill it as it would in CF. > > Generally what I am trying to say if you wish to kill a lich go with a party that is the only way and should be the only way(unfortunatley they come back to life in CF). Look I'm not trying to say I know everything about CF(I'm not as experienced as most of you, though I'm getting there.) I do know a lot in D&D (rulewise - what is it with PC's trying to argue rules saying "but he did it in this novel." smack across the face for you)and unless you let your PC's powerplay - you would agree a lich should be a terrible foe to come aross enough so that a high level party has a hard time not to mention one person. So on this scale in CF I think the Imms have done well with the lich. > > Go ahead flame flame flame...

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