Posted by ellokraine on April 24, 2000 at 23:53:48:
In Reply to: I'll see your $.01 and raise you... posted by Shokai(IMM) on April 24, 2000 at 15:16:00:
> > This would be fine (immortals taking a hand) if the immortals were visible, or just doing the job of the mortal leader. However, by snooping someone who's obviously doing something wrong, you're taking away a good portion of the fun of empire.. doing stuff that's wrong, and getting away with it.
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> There's doing something wrong IC, and doing something wrong OOC...if you want to do something wrong IC and not get anath'd you better damned well have it in your role why you're doing it...that's why we have the role command.
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> There should be no reason why two people in empire cannot be buddy buddy if it suits them.. they just can't get caught by the leadership.. and getting caught should entail more than simply doing the act.. they should have to screw up somehow (tell someone who rats them out, mention something over the cabal channel, have a conjurer snoop them.. that kind of stuff).
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> Again, that's fine if it's IC and well rp'd...but if it is, put it in the damned role. Not having immortals anath would be like having heroimms and avatars (51's and 52's) patrol for cheaters....besides everyone knows when the mortal leaders are about, and just like when an immortal vis'es...people are going to be on thier best behavior. If people were consistant maybe immortals wouldn't need to patrol for anath's. Again the catch with Empire is this: easy to get in...hard to stay in, and painful to get out.
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> > I think that the extent of an immortals handiwork in this should be to nudge the mortal leaders in the right direction (perhaps give them dreams about what's happening.. or other signs..).
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> Also, what incintive can you possible give a leader to kick out people? I mean honestly, IC and OOC they're at least good for human shields...the immortals are the only ones who have nothing vested to lose by anath'ing people.
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> > After all, the empire is about a whole bunch of people who are all bad apples, just trying to get the other guy to screw up first so that they can have all the power themselves.
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> > ...Rome...
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> Again...the immortals are the only ones with nothing to lose or gain by anath'ing...so I think that (again) they're the best choice for it.
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> full house beats a pair....
Lord Shokai I agree with most of your sentiments here save one. I had thought that a role was not mandatory. Now it seems that you recommend punishment for those who do not have a role in their characters. If I am mistaken please correct me and clarify what you say here about " damn well better have roles to...."