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Posted by Forum Reader on May 14, 2000 at 18:14:15:

In Reply to: The Forum Elite ...(In reference to Kellyn's Log) posted by Thror Hammersong on May 14, 2000 at 16:25:40:

> Like I need to explain myself here anyhow,
> but since I realize I was one of the few
> people long ago who was asking the same
> questions I'll go into a small amount of
> detail about Kellyn's actions through the
> log.

You don't have to explain yourself, and I'm
glad you are taking the time to give a little
insight into what occured.


> First of all those of you who think you have
> a place to criticize, -you don't.- You have
> no idea of everything that occured before
> and after.

But there are people who have played a few
battleragers in their time, and others who
have opinions regarding immortal interactions
(some might say interference). People have
a place to critcize, and thanks to dioxide
they have a place to voice it.



> My whole reason for getting onto Kellyn was
> that he continued to ask for 'help' from
> other villagers. Does this sound Barbaric?
> Does this sound Courageous? Granted, from
> a God's perspective he is mortal and mortals
> need help with given things, but he was
> asking for help with things he could have
> done himself. I even expressed that this
> was not a personal assault on Kellyn, but one
> which I hoped he could learn that constantly
> seeking aid from others weakens what should
> be a hardened Warrior.

Did you even go back over that log, and see what
he was doing. He was taking on mage after mage
by himself. Necros with full armies, and conjurors
with servitors. You make a comment about being able
to see what he was up to. If you were really watching,
you might have noticed that not once did he ask for
help with any of the mages and their armies. Am I
getting that wrong? Is there precedent here that
I don't know about in regard to Kellyn? You laid into
him, and didn't even notice what he was doing currently,
and that was being a rager trying to destroy magic.

It may not have been personal but it came off that
way.


> If this was too much
> for him to handle, tough, he saved me the
> trouble of having to go through kicking his
> ass out of the cabal in the future.

Was you did Thror was irritating. You didn't
have to single him out in front of the cabal.
As I commented above, you are singling him out
as he is taking mages down by himself without
asking for help.


> I could stoop down to a lower level and tell
> those of you who have a problem with this to 'fuck off' but that does not help anyone
> to understand the situation, nor does it provide helpful criticism.

If you said there was some precedent with Kellyn,
I would have left it alone. You haven't even hinted
at that. Is there that we aren't aware of?

> I help to manage the BattleRager cabal, if I
> see something in the wrong, I'll be damned
> if I don't have every right to correct it.
> Really, use this forum as a place to make
> suggestions or discuss ideas, but grow up
> and quit tearing people down by responding
> with these 'child-like' (FUCK YOU) posts.

I'm not going to tear you down Thror, but I do
disagree with what you did. However, I thought
he deleted rather hastily, but then again was it
a moot point in this case. If he hadn't said the
'right' things would you have thrown him out?


> Eventually, such posts will drive people who
> actually 'care' to ignoring this forum all-
> together.

Log board is a nasty thing when they are logs like
these.


> Thror


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