Posted by Beladorizid on November 3, 2000 at 10:43:20:
In Reply to: doh, answer to you and Imbrogno posted by Rooqweaz on November 3, 2000 at 10:12:39:
> > I disagree, I believe the "problems" as they are reffered to are people getting wild ideas from OOC forums. > I don't refer to the forum, I talk in general And where does the talk in general happen? IRC, ICQ, Forum. > > from the first glance, the winner becomes the leader. Isn't it obvious to you that the winner of the rites doesn't always get the leadership position? Will what you have seen time and time again be anymore real if an Imm says it? > > From the previous reading from ages ago, I do believe how most of it was explained as bugs. Getting to large of elementals, couldn't that be explained by a code error? Which was fixed? Scar would have lost nothing to say, "Ooops, damn I made those bastards to tough, it's fixed now sorry" instead maybe what he said was the truth. And lets assume your right, and they were overpowered and not just a coding mistake, WHO CARES how he worded the reply, really, who cares. It was fixed, it's done. The peasents rejoiced. > You could explain it as you want, just people will find your explanation But my point is why? Why is it important? Even IF, big IF, Scar blew it, and made them WAY to tough and thought he was doing good, why is that important, it is people discussing it for EVER that even makes it an issue, and shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the game in the least. > Thank you for this model. One time as a newbie I walked in Cyradia's temple while she was talking to someone else, and sat there, she whacked me, and good. I learned not to do that again. Didn't need to be told. Empire was once said to be "not a support group for evils" and many many many other posts have hashed and rehashed what being in the Empire entails. Why does it have to be on an individual level. When I am in game, I don't regard Scar for example as a coder and musician, I think of him as an evil lich who whispers in the dark, tainting and converting (just one example) why should I expect him to break rp after being uninducted from Scarab and say "Look man, you were doing ok up until you hung out with X, then he did Y, and you should have responded better and etc. etc. and better luck next time man" then I go back to being IC. Learn from your mistakes, if you can't see what you have done wrong, or what has been done wrong to you, maybe you shouldn't join Empire. Empire is risk, everyone and their cat knows this by know, you take the risk or you don't. > something happens New example for you. You play X, the Leader of Master. It's a new role for you, you usually suck at Master but your doing real well this time. Somebody comes here and says, "Rooq is X, aren't you Rooq" you want to keep your IC identity a secret, how do you respond? > Now question, is it really needed for CF Lemme respond with this. If people didn't read that sort of content on the OOC channels, how in the hell would it even affect them in the least. In cases like this, I truly think ignorance is bliss, if I dont know, I dont care. I just ... have ... fun. Isn't that what we are all here for?
> > Can anyone say exactly how the Rites are conducted and Leader chosen? We all have theories sure. But lets assume they did speak up and said whatever, "We choose the guy with the longest hair and bluest eyes" guesss what, we have 400 braided frank sinatra's running around. Maybe some things are SUPPOSED to be a mystery. Maybe that is part of the fun.
> (or one of 2-3 winners)
> at least it is as many people understand it.
> If it is not so. IT IS PLAIN SIMPLE to say, the winner of rates
> does not mean that one becomes a leader.
> do you see the problem with it?
> hmm...shitty :)
> conjurers powers were severely REDUCED, it is not bug fixing
> (at least most programmers mean other things under "bug fixing")
> When archon's hits lowered from annihilates to let's say demolishes
> it is reducing, it is not a bug fixing. (because I don't believe
> that immortals didn't notice such "bug" while testing)
>
> > The best example I read of a model for this cabal is a loose based Star Wars Empire. Fits most of the concepts. Think back about the Emporer and big bad Darth, now picture them taking a young rookie aside cause he let the rebels escape, and discussing with him that he might want to choose another career path. No, I can't picture it either.
> but it is just RP excuse for the game.
> and I'm talking about actual reasons.
> To be honest, what you think, did X anathemed Y because he was
> bored this day and feel himself he is Darth Vader
> or because he was watching him long time and found that Y is crappy imperial.
> => imm X comes and lie something ebout it
> => Y catches X with the lie and point to it
> => X called Y "fucking moron" who has no clue and don't know the whole history
> (notice, often it is not necessary to know the whole history to catch the lie
> example: X said Eriwal is not imm, and later we see, Eriwal was imm
> you don't need to know the history, you just catch the lie)
> => Y got frustruated and pulled some shit back to X
> => so, we see a conflict, one of them or both of them
> got pissed, maybe Y even leave CF in frustruation, whatever
> does it help to increase the player base
> will it make the game more enjoyable for people?