Posted by FizZle on September 13, 2000 at 10:46:47:
In Reply to: Thief Ideas. posted by Humble Explorer on September 13, 2000 at 10:23:28:
> Howdy, So did a lot of people, as I recall... forum search this too. =) > 1) Change a thieves "sneak" skill so that when sneaking mobs can no longer track them. Assassins already have a different type of "hide" skill that allows them to hide in the wilderness... I think it's a little more important for an assassin to hide (stalking) than a thief, so I disagree there. Good on the sneak though, neat idea. > 2) Give them a skill called "bargin" It would allow a thief to sort of haggle a price with a mob to buy a piece of it's equipment. Similar to request, and difficulty based on level difference and alighnments. Price would depend on item sought. I think this is unique... a good idea. Maybe they get it at around 40... same time AP's get demand. I think prices should be horridly high, or the mob should get pissed off and attack you. For instance if you try to seperate a paladin from his holy sword... he has no need for gold and you take his prized possession? Surely you are a Darkthing! A Paladin screams and attacks! Hmm... I agree they need to be more powerful at high levels... about this though I don't know. Your basicaly giving them the opportunity to do more when the bj. Kinda weak here. > 4) Improve "pick lock" skill for thieves only. Bards and anti-pals can keep the weaker version. It would not open all locks, but open up some possibilities. (or let ap's and bards loose pick locks to make it unique) Assassins have pick lock too. Thieves and assassins should have it... maybe bards, but not AP's. > 5) Give thieves an "envenom" skill allowing them to mix their own poisons to apply to weapons for a short duration. That would make your thief an assassin. Really, a thief doesn't want to KILL anyone (speaking generally) he only cares enough that he does not get caught stealing. > 6) Give thieves a "climb skill" This would allow a thief to escape from "certain" trap types. Such al climbing out of a pit, avalanch, etc. I like it. > 7) remove a thieves dual backstab- it can be a little too effective, and turns thieves into assassins instead. Here, I think you are talking out of your ass. I'll turn my head from the stinky wind and not respond to this. > 8) give thieves enhanced damage earlier in life. Maybe. > 9) (this was mentioned earlier by someone else...) Give thieves the skill "pry" it would allow a thief to get one item from an unconscious victem that they are holding or wearing. A good idea, and I'll tell you why in a minute. > 10) give elder thieves a new version of hide allowing them a "chance" to avoid being seen by non-thieves with detect hidden. Ok. Not bad... but I don't know. It's hard to be EXTRA hidden in a shadow. > 11) give thieves "dark vision", like rangers but forbid them to hide and sneak if they are wearing glowing equipment... I like the part about not being able to hide if they are wearing anything glowing. Perhaps thieves could get 'enhanced hide' (can only be seen by thieves of the same or higher rank) that only works when your not glowing. > Thanks.
> I had some ideas rolling around in my mind for thief changes. Any comments?
> 3) Give elder thieves (rank 40+) the ability to use staves and maybe wands. Hero level thieves have a hard time surviving against other hero ranked.
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Your welcome.