Posted by Beladorizid on November 3, 2000 at 09:42:50:
In Reply to: CF and imm stuff posted by Rooqweaz on November 3, 2000 at 09:08:07:
> the key to many problems with CF is called "TRUTH" I disagree, I believe the "problems" as they are reffered to are people getting wild ideas from OOC forums. > Now it reminds a bunch of politics. Imms make mistakes, they have admitted as much probably 3 times on this page alone. But hhy should they have to explain themselves to us. Should we get a note out of the blue saying "Oh I was working on warcry and fumbled a variable. Took me about 5 minutes to fix, thought you should know" or perhaps "I wrote the boot quest, and sorta went and said the keywords without thinking, and I feel really bad now, wanted you all to know". Do you or anyone else come on this forum for the sole purpose of explaining your mistakes? I don't, Dio doesn't have enough HDD space for that. > If you make rites Can anyone say exactly how the Rites are conducted and Leader chosen? We all have theories sure. But lets assume they did speak up and said whatever, "We choose the guy with the longest hair and bluest eyes" guesss what, we have 400 braided frank sinatra's running around. Maybe some things are SUPPOSED to be a mystery. Maybe that is part of the fun. > If you made conjurers overpowered when they were implemented From the previous reading from ages ago, I do believe how most of it was explained as bugs. Getting to large of elementals, couldn't that be explained by a code error? Which was fixed? Scar would have lost nothing to say, "Ooops, damn I made those bastards to tough, it's fixed now sorry" instead maybe what he said was the truth. And lets assume your right, and they were overpowered and not just a coding mistake, WHO CARES how he worded the reply, really, who cares. It was fixed, it's done. The peasents rejoiced. > IF you throw some imperial for "not defending" The best example I read of a model for this cabal is a loose based Star Wars Empire. Fits most of the concepts. Think back about the Emporer and big bad Darth, now picture them taking a young rookie aside cause he let the rebels escape, and discussing with him that he might want to choose another career path. No, I can't picture it either. > they catch you lying and point to it, Love it if you could find a post for me where I am imm says "We never lie". Can't recall ever seeing that. In conclusion, and not naming anyone in particular, I tried hard to think of a parallel to the many "behind the scenes posters" here on CF. The closest I could come up with is a guy who stands on a street corner a block down from work. He hands out pamphlets for the Communist Party of Canada, he is there when I come to work, he is there when I leave. Normal people walk past him, and don't listen to his rhetoric, whether he speaks the truth or not. You block him completely from your mind, but he still bothers you, you know? So you say don't read my posts if you don't like them, it's not quite as easy as that. Without getting aggresive, the only thing I ask is this. If you don't like the game, if you don't like the people who run it, could you please keep it to yourself so the rest of us can have the fun you used to have, back in the day? Thanks. *plink plink*
> New say a truth, never say "I was wrong"
> Maye when you play "a god" you feel it is necessary to keep GOD's ego
> but it is not very hard to say "I did a mistake here"
> People are people, they DO mistakes.
> If somebody tell "no I don't" while he does actually
> other would not trust him anymore.
> Maybe immortals must stay gods in real life, so they will not harm
> newbie/child imagination but such behaviour may ruin the game
> for mature players.
> just say, we make rites for fun
> but we choose the leader from other criterias
> (good if the chosen would win the rites, if not, well,
> so be it, he will be the leader, because we think he should be)
> not all players are complete morons, they UNDESTAND
> that making the winner of rites a leader is risky.
> the rites are good for RP/gameplaying as they are
> use them to fill veteran positions/whatever
> that is not a great problem if you say, we feel X should be a leader.
> just don't lie
> just say
> "yes, they were, we did not realize it before, we are working to balance them"
> "yes, they were, we knew it, we wanted to make them owerpowered,
> we are not going to fix it"
> just say THE TRUTH.
> Don't feed us with blasted Nepenthe's 54 ways to kill conjurers
> or with Scarabaeus's "class is under debugging, it is all alright, just has some bugs"
> don't lie to him
> say him a truth, if you don't want to let it go through cb
> transfer him and EXPLAIN him the real reason
> something like: "1) you did this 2) you did that 3) you don't gasp
> this point of empire 4) whatever else and 5) at least this time
> you did not defend so...." let him to FIGURE out what he did wrong
> else he would be just frustruated from Agath-bitch who kicks him
> out "for nothing".
> you turn your face into pumnkin shape and say "we never lie" and call them
Maybe some or all of what I say above is not viable, but it is how I see it. Do you ever think the Imms will get to a point where nobody complains? There will ALWAYS be someone who doesn't like them, or what they do, and they will find a reason to justify it. Do I live in a fantasy world where I think all the Imms rescue orphan children in their spare time? No, I think of them as people who design and build a game I love to play. Am I wearing blinders and refusing to see the truth of what's really happening. perhaps, but remember my blinders are there by choice. I don't want to know how the magic 8 ball works, I am perfectly happy playing for the sheer pleasure of it.