A little log I dug up. (Flame included) :

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Posted by Kadsuane on December 17, 2000 at 21:48:42:

I was thinking about making another battlerager. But I decided not to after my last rager. Here is the background to this log. Thror is controlling Whilhemstift the cloud giant ranger in the village. Ahntriel sees him cast an armor spell and calls him out. He attacks Ahntriel and she responds, he then kills her and kicks her out.

I doubt I will ever play a rager again as long as Thror is around. I havent been the only person who got screwed by Thror's little power trips.

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You tell an Immortal 'Ok now explain to me what I did wrong?'

You tell an Immortal 'From a mechanics stand point'

You tell an Immortal 'It was being controlled by an imm and I shouldnt have stuck my nose in '


You tell an Immortal 'I understand'

An Immortal tells you 'Deleting doesn't show me you have any remorse for your actions.'

You tell an Immortal 'This wasnt about game mechanics'


You tell an Immortal 'And I dont have remorse'

An Immortal tells you 'I'm not talking about mechanics, nor do I want to'


You tell an Immortal 'I roleplayed how I thought a battlerager would act if they saw another rager using magic'


An Immortal tells you 'I am talking about your role as a villager, which you threw out the door completely.'

You tell an Immortal 'Oh?'

An Immortal tells you 'By basically spitting in an elders face?'

You tell an Immortal 'This is about me refusing to go to hell then?'

An Immortal tells you 'Go to hell?'

An Immortal tells you 'This has nothing to do with anything but your actions just now displayed.'

You tell an Immortal 'Spitting in an elder's face. Yes'

You tell an Immortal 'An elder just used magic in front of me'

You tell an Immortal 'If a rager leader was doing that'

You tell an Immortal 'Would you expect me to continue to respect him?'

An Immortal tells you 'and he had a valid explanation for saying ords of magic.'

You feel your body start to regain its material form.



An Immortal tells you 'I would expect you to ask before you begin accusing about things you know nothing of.'

 * Human * (PK) Ahntriel the Songsmith, Arrogant Outcast of the Village



You feel your body start to regain its material form.

You tell an Immortal 'Lets see again'


An Immortal tells you 'Which is exactly what you did to a village hero in front of other villagers.'


You tell an Immortal 'Its clear that you arent gonna come off your high horse'

You tell an Immortal 'So bye'

<92%hp 100%m 100%mv> wo
You have 0 gold, and 179400 experience (20760 exp to 
level).

<92%hp 100%m 100%mv> who pk
[ Human ] (PK) Elerach the Elegist
[ Felar ] (PK) Yasmori the Mokuroku
[ H-Elf ] (PK) Mornig the Master of Kyusho, Servant of the Dawn
[ Felar ] (PK) Hoffmar the Greater Demon Slayer
[ Cloud ] (PK) Inurian the Warder Captain
[ Dwarf ] (PK) Morak the Dragon Slayer
[ W-Elf ] (PK) Deirdre the Dragon Slayer
[  Elf  ] (PK) Sachiel the Student of Pyrotechniques, Servant of the Dawn
[ Gnome ] (PK) Zelitian the Student of Water
* Human * (PK) Ahntriel the Songsmith, Arrogant Outcast of the Village

Players found: 10

<92%hp 100%m 100%mv> eq
You are using:
Nothing.

<92%hp 100%m 100%mv> who pk
[ Human ] (PK) Elerach the Elegist
[ Felar ] (PK) Yasmori the Mokuroku
[ H-Elf ] (PK) Mornig the Master of Kyusho, Servant of the Dawn
[ Felar ] (PK) Hoffmar the Greater Demon Slayer
[ Cloud ] (PK) Inurian the Warder Captain
[ Dwarf ] (PK) Morak the Dragon Slayer
[ W-Elf ] (PK) Deirdre the Dragon Slayer
[  Elf  ] (PK) Sachiel the Student of Pyrotechniques, Servant of the Dawn
[ Gnome ] (PK) Zelitian the Student of Water
* Human * (PK) Ahntriel the Songsmith, Arrogant Outcast of the Village

Players found: 10


An Immortal tells you 'Obviously you are not willing to see what you did wrong.'

You tell an Immortal 'No, I am willing to see what I did wrong from a game mechanics point'

An Immortal tells you 'Your particularly demanding when I'm tryiing to explain to you what it was.'

Deirdre tells you 'Hiya!'

You tell Deirdre 'speaking with the gods'

 pray But from a character rp point, I just dont see it. The character has always been stubborn and shit headed.
You pray to the heavens for help!

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 
Dardignac looks at Sauren.
An Immortal tells you 'and you paid the consequences of choosing to be stubborn and shitheaded at that moment.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> rep
Sauren shivers and suffers.
Sauren's alcohol poisoning mauls him.



An Immortal tells you 'and lacking a role, means you chose that moment, and were never that way.'


The role command allows you to keep a record of the story and background
of your character.  You may compose each addition like a note with
'role +' and 'role -'.   When you are satisfied with an addition, you may
add it to your permanent role with 'role add.'  View your role as written
to this point by simply typing role.  Like notes, there is a maximum size
of your role text, so you may want to guard against being overly verbose.

Immortals may view your role, but no mortal (save you) will be able to see
it.  You may use role for your own benefit, as a place to record your
character's background and significant events or turning points in their
lives.  You may also use role as a way to explain the background,
motivations, and roleplay of your character to the immortals.  This could
potentially lead to being noticed or rewarded for actions that are
consistent with your character's role, if not obviously so.  A sphere
deception character pretending to be something they were not, for example,
could use role as a forum for explaining his/her true motivations and
personality.

Role is NOT a place to keep track of your characters kills or deaths
(though a victory or defeat could conceivably be a RP turning point for a
character).  Using it for this or otherwise abusing role will be punished
harshly.

Use of the role command is not mandatory on CF.  Roleplaying, however, IS
mandatory, and role can help us determine if you are roleplaying
exceptionally, poorly, or not at all, and reward accordingly.

You tell an Immortal 'So now I am being penalized for not having a role as well?'

You tell an Immortal 'Bah, im getting too bitter. '

You tell an Immortal 'Thanks anyways'

An Immortal tells you 'How am I supposed to know your character is stubborn if you don't have a role to defend this?'


You tell an Immortal 'Lets just call it a night, I got what you think I deserved. I wont bother you guys again'


You tell an Immortal 'Same way imms figured it out before the role command was implemented'

You tell an Immortal 'You act as if no one roleplayed before the command was implemented'


An Immortal tells you 'I am acting on the standards we now follow.'


An Immortal tells you 'if you cannot accept this I cannot help you.'

You tell an Immortal 'No, I am not asking for help.'

You tell an Immortal 'Just trying to discuss this.'


An Immortal tells you 'which I am also.'

You tell an Immortal 'I like cf and like its imms'

Yaksha auctions 'plate mail vest with figure of black hammer'

You tell an Immortal 'I dont want to leave feeling like challen '

***Sadly enough thats exactly how I feel now***
An Immortal has transferred you.
The Realm of the Dead
  You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you
can see in all directions.  Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky
tear savagely at your fragile body.
 
[An Immortal says 'We can better discuss this here.'


You say 'Alright'

An Immortal says 'This discussion has nothing to do with anyone but you and your interaction just a few moments ago.'


An Immortal says 'From both an RP and Mechanics point, you reacted wrongly.'

You say 'Fine'

You say 'I understand the mechanics part'

You say 'I knew I would have to pay some sort of a price'


An Immortal says 'Mechanically, there was obviously a bug, one which is being remedied.'



You say 'Ofcourse I didnt know that'

You say 'But hey'

You say 'Understanding the rp part is what I am having a little bit of trouble with'

An Immortal says 'But I wouldn't judge you on that. I am however judging you on your RolePlaying.'

You nod.


You say 'Character sees an veteran using magic'

You say 'And calls him out'

You say 'And the response I get is an ambush'


An Immortal says 'So when you degrade a village elder, in front of other villagers - while being a (young) villager who doesn't have nearly the experience these elders do - they have every right to react harshly.'
 
You say 'and a sound beating'


An Immortal says 'you could have taken the ambush and beating and returned.  Instead you come back swinging.'

An Immortal says 'trying to sleep the elder.'

You say 'At which point she is pissed off and angry'

An Immortal says 'and you are pissed off and angry.'

An Immortal says 'correct?'

You say 'I was, im calming down now.'

An Immortal nods.

An Immortal says 'Trust me. My intentions aren't to make you delete.'

You say 'So now the character decides to return the favor'

You say 'come on'

An Immortal says 'Nor are they to make you despise this mud, or immortal involvement.'

You say 'You saw how much effort I put into this char'


An Immortal says 'return what favor?'

You say 'being attacked by whilemstift'


An Immortal says 'You outwardly disrespected a battle elder.'

You say 'Battle elder did not call her to the circle of rites'

You say 'It was just an attack'

An Immortal says 'then tried to attack him while he was busy reprimanding another villager.  '

You say 'One out of anger'

<You say 'And she responded out of anger as well'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 
An Immortal shakes its head.


An Immortal says 'Is this your first battlerager?'

You say 'No I have had a little experience'

An Immortal says 'I'm doubting that slightly.  When you screw up, in front of one of the village elders, he will attack. Granted, not kill you.'

You say 'I guess you will find out sooner or later'

You say 'I did vizarsh'


An Immortal says 'Vizarsh couldn't kill you at the time.'

You say 'hmm?'

 
An Immortal says 'But let me define this again so that you can see that there really isn't any room for arguement:'


An Immortal says 'When you disrespect a Battle Immortal, Leader, Elder - they have every reason to uninduct you.'

You say 'Right'


You say 'But if someone saw me using magic with vizarsh, I wouldnt have kicked them out because the called me out'

An Immortal says 'So please point out the validity of your remark?'

You say 'When I was talking about that anger thing, and circle of rites.'


An Immortal says 'That you had the right to be called to the circle?'

You say 'No not a right, but thats how the village settles differences no?'

You say 'Attacking out of anger and attacking to teach a lesson are two different things arent they?'


An Immortal says 'That's how villagers settle differences, correct.'

You say 'The character saw whilhemstift attack out of anger, not to teach her a lesson.'

You say 'So she fought back.'

An Immortal says 'What you fail to see is that your placing your character (From an RP standpoint) in a higher position than a village elder.'

An Immortal says 'and she died.'

You say 'Unless you would rather that she go Oh wait thats an imm playing whilhemstift'


An Immortal says 'what's wrong with that picture?'

You say 'I should stop'


An Immortal says 'you then came and reacted out of anger by demanding answers from Whilhemstift.'

You say 'Again'

You say 'He had just killed her'

An Immortal nods.

You say 'Do you expect something different?'

An Immortal says 'I did, yes.'

You say 'She was just killed by a fellow villager'

You say 'Not an Imm'

You say 'Two different things'


You say 'Ofcourse she would demand an answer'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 
An Immortal says 'Answer me this:'


An Immortal says 'When a level 1 player goes up to a hero and starts talking 
trash in that hero's face, the only thing that protects them from taking a sword 
in the gut is 'The gods protection''

 
An Immortal says 'You basically did that, to a village elder.'

An Immortal says 'He reacted. You then reacted and he reacted further by killing you.'


An Immortal says 'You returned, continued to deface him in front of other villagers.'


An Immortal says 'If you do not understand the concept of 'respect' in the village by now then I hope this experience helps you.'

An Immortal says 'By no means do I want you to consider this anything but a learning experience.'


An Immortal says 'Deleting shortly after being punished teaches you nothing.'



You say 'No but my character still doesnt think she did anything wrong'

An Immortal nods.


An Immortal says 'Put that in a role and press on.  '

An Immortal says 'Many if not every villager has been given two chances.'

You say 'I know'

You say 'But whats the first part of getting back into the village?'

You say 'Showing remorse right?'


An Immortal nods.

An Immortal says 'and what you've actually learned from the experience.'

You say 'The character learned that whilhemstift is a hypocrite and a bully'

You say 'Thats not gonna help'

You snicker softly.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> 
An Immortal chuckles politely.

An Immortal says 'As is Hildebran, as is Armitage.'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mwo
You have 0 gold, and 179400 experience (20760 exp to 
level).

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> who pk
[ Human ] (PK) Moriati the Master of Kyusho
[ Felar ] (PK) Yasmori the Mokuroku
[ Cloud ] (PK) Kanzerion the Sword of the Forest
[ Human ] (PK) Sauren the Songsmith
[ H-Elf ] (PK) Mornig the Student of Kamae, Servant of the Dawn
[ W-Elf ] (PK) Deirdre the Dragon Slayer
[  Elf  ] (PK) Sachiel the Student of Pyrotechniques, Servant of the Dawn
* Human * (PK) Ahntriel the Songsmith, Arrogant Outcast of the Village

Players found: 8

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> who pk
[ Human ] (PK) Moriati the Master of Kyusho
[ Felar ] (PK) Yasmori the Mokuroku
[ Cloud ] (PK) Kanzerion the Sword of the Forest
[ Human ] (PK) Sauren the Songsmith
[ H-Elf ] (PK) Mornig the Student of Kamae, Servant of the Dawn
[ W-Elf ] (PK) Deirdre the Dragon Slayer
[  Elf  ] (PK) Sachiel the Student of Pyrotechniques, Servant of the Dawn
* Human * (PK) Ahntriel the Songsmith, Arrogant Outcast of the Village

Players found: 8

You say 'Ahh well'

An Immortal says 'In the Rites a young villager answered a question that was 
expressly directed towards another villager.  He was promptly strangled and 
couldn't participate further.'


An Immortal says 'The point is..a village full of barbarians is a brutal place.'


An Immortal says 'don't expect a spanking, expect a beating.'


The Realm of the Dead
  You are standing on an immense, grey stone floor that stretches as far as you
can see in all directions.  Rough winds plunging from the dark, starless sky
tear savagely at your fragile body.
 
[Exits: north east south west]

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> nod
You nod.

An Immortal says 'and positions of respect are earned. Anyone who questions those 
are likely going to see how those authority figures earned them.'

An Immortal says 'Whilhemstift did answer why he spoke those words of magic.'

An Immortal says 'Taking a moment to actually hear him out might have been the 
best course of action.'

You say 'Actually the two rangers answered, whilhemstift never said anything.'


An Immortal says 'He did, while you were making your way back to the village.'


An Immortal says 'The rangers were just paraphrasing.'

You say 'And the character knows this how?'


You say 'Or me for that matter'

An Immortal says 'You walked in and continued to bully your way into an answer.'

You say 'Back to that old horse again.'

An Immortal says 'A giant barbarian isn't going to pat you on the head and say calm down' especially with the tone you took.'

An Immortal nods.

An Immortal says 'Well, the reason you were brought here was because I don't want to cause you any spite.'

You say 'Thats ok'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> say Im over that now
An Immortal says 'You reacted the way you felt necessary, sadly it was the wrong way.'

An Immortal says 'Your welcome to continue your trials as an ex-villager,'

You say 'You did what you think was right,'


An Immortal says 'and work to establish yourself back into the village.'

You say 'I think it wasnt.'

An Immortal nods.

An Immortal says 'point being, your not a battle immortal.'

You say 'I don't see that happening. Unless they kick whilhemstift out'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> snick
You snicker softly.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> say 
An Immortal nods.

You say 'Well thank you I suppose'

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> delete
Type delete again to confirm this command.
WARNING: this command is irreversible.
Typing delete with an argument will undo delete status.
If you confirm the delete, this name will be unusable for 30 days.

<100%hp 100%m 100%mv> delet
An Immortal says 'If you worked as hard as you claim with this character, there 
are other alternatives.'

An Immortal nods.

An Immortal says 'thank you.'

Awaiting the hour of reprisal, your time slips away...

#SESSION 'a' DIED.
#THERE'S NO ACTIVE SESSION NOW.

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