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Posted by SphereMaker(IMM) on July 5, 2000 at 10:53:28:

In Reply to: forced to answer. posted by Rooqweaz on July 5, 2000 at 09:30:47:

My browser crashed as I was answering this (with verbose mode on) and I don't feel like trying to recreate my answers, so I'll keep this brief.

> Of course, hard to get exact definition of the word "overpowered"
> so there should be some kind of compromise.
> If one person can raid solo at low ranks, could explore alone better than anybody else
> could smash whole groups, can be as protected as a healer and do good damage the same time
> etc, etc, and with 0 extra cost, I could say this person is tough ("overpowered")
> and, again, it doesn't mean conjurers are best killers.

First of all, rank 40 is hardly "low ranks". Second, I've seen other classes raid cabals solo at level 40 just fine (hell, I've done it myself); does that make them overpowered too? Third, I think you'll agree that different classes are better at different things. Some classes are better at player-killing (eg necromancers and assassins), some are better at group support (eg healers), some are better at ranking, at raiding, at exploring, etc. Does any of that make these classes overpowered? There's a difference between a class being "tough" and being "balanced".

> Anyway, transplendat archons are overpowered... because...they were toned down :)... usually there is no need to make thing weaker if they aren't overpowered.

Actually, as a whole, archons were pumped up, not toned down. Not unless you did some coding for us that I'm not aware of.

> If I can see whom the victim is fighting it can as good as I can see the room.

Then again, if you're not fighting, it's just not all that useful is it? What if you're just exploring? What if you're hiding somewhere?

> If I can see eq of the victim, I can make guesses what he's doing
> (practicing, for example)

That tells you nothing at all of his location. You'd be better off having an air major go find him.

> etc/etc.. you just can't avoid gaunts completely
> and word wide summon is overpowered when it works
> (and sometimes it does).

No, you can't avoid nightgaunts completely. If you could it'd be a useless ability.

And no, it's not "word wide summon".

>
> > I think the Boy Scouts have a motto that covers this.

> Can't answer, I did not get it

Be prepared.

> > So, smart as you are, you can think of no ways to thwart Clairvoyance?

> No, I don't know how.

I'll give you a freebie then to get you started. If you can't be seen, you can't be seen.

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Re: Rooqweaz 11:33:38 7/5/2000 (6)
- I hate to say it Nepenthe(IMM) 12:02:20 7/5/2000 (5)
  - Re: I hate to say it Niblaznacker 13:20:11 7/5/2000 (4)
    - Re: I hate to say it Nepenthe(IMM) 14:02:44 7/5/2000 (1)
      - Re: I hate to say it Magtograme 15:07:51 7/5/2000 (0)
    - Tons of uncaballed warriors fight without the head every day, or the orb, or the book, or the codex, or the icon, or the sapling, or the equation. nt Imbrogno 13:29:13 7/5/2000 (1)
      - Ah, but they can use potions of return and pass door. (n/t) The Arcane(VIP) 13:42:18 7/5/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> > My browser crashed as I was answering this (with verbose mode on) and I don't feel like trying to recreate my answers, so I'll keep this brief. > > > Of course, hard to get exact definition of the word "overpowered" > > so there should be some kind of compromise. > > If one person can raid solo at low ranks, could explore alone better than anybody else > > could smash whole groups, can be as protected as a healer and do good damage the same time > > etc, etc, and with 0 extra cost, I could say this person is tough ("overpowered") > > and, again, it doesn't mean conjurers are best killers. > First of all, rank 40 is hardly "low ranks". Second, I've seen other classes raid cabals solo at level 40 just fine (hell, I've done it myself); does that make them overpowered too? Third, I think you'll agree that different classes are better at different things. Some classes are better at player-killing (eg necromancers and assassins), some are better at group support (eg healers), some are better at ranking, at raiding, at exploring, etc. Does any of that make these classes overpowered? There's a difference between a class being "tough" and being "balanced". > > Anyway, transplendat archons are overpowered... because...they were toned down :)... usually there is no need to make thing weaker if they aren't overpowered. > Actually, as a whole, archons were pumped up, not toned down. Not unless you did some coding for us that I'm not aware of. > > If I can see whom the victim is fighting it can as good as I can see the room. > Then again, if you're not fighting, it's just not all that useful is it? What if you're just exploring? What if you're hiding somewhere? > > If I can see eq of the victim, I can make guesses what he's doing > > (practicing, for example) > That tells you nothing at all of his location. You'd be better off having an air major go find him. > > etc/etc.. you just can't avoid gaunts completely > > and word wide summon is overpowered when it works > > (and sometimes it does). > No, you can't avoid nightgaunts completely. If you could it'd be a useless ability. > And no, it's not "word wide summon". > > > > > I think the Boy Scouts have a motto that covers this. > > Can't answer, I did not get it > Be prepared. > > > So, smart as you are, you can think of no ways to thwart Clairvoyance? > > No, I don't know how. > I'll give you a freebie then to get you started. If you can't be seen, you can't be seen.

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