Heh... My phoenix fire ===OBLITERATES=== me :( (some text):

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Posted by Uli on July 26, 2000 at 15:54:34:

In Reply to: la lala la...connect the dots.... posted by Shokai(IMM) on July 26, 2000 at 14:12:39:

Brr, it's very inconvenient to quote your long lines, so I'll just write from scratch.
Also, excuse my English, I can't be as expressive as you are(though I'd like to).)

Shokai, for you it doen't matter what the original post was
about. You just have some text about roleplaying/rules/
pk/etc., and paste it everywhere with little changes, no matter
what you respond to. You see enemys around every corner.

Hey, lad, I'm not your enemy!!!!

We are speaking about different things. That's what
I want to say. Main point of my message was that bashing
SMUG people on forum doesn't make any good. In some
cases it can just make them angry (if they care), and nothing more.
By no means it can change their view of the world and the game.
Do you agree with THAT?

As for their opinions being close to truth... Well, all of
us say something they later wish they didn't say, right?
I just meant, what Arolin says, sometimes look reasonable.
What you say, also sometimes look reasonable.
The other man can say, that what you say and what Arolin says
cannot be reasonable at the same time. And this saying will also
look reasonable. I just can't believe they are that bad, that's all.

What now? I'll tell you what now... Yagar and Shannagen were deleted
for sharing information. I can't say Shannagen's rp was
something exceptional, but at least it was ok for a master
necromancer. And he didn't look that bloodthirsty, you know.
Yagar... well... he didn't killed everybody on sight. And people
from SMUG were not the only exception.

People who are allowed to do that without punishment are, of course,
immortals.

Now tell me: in the case of Nepenthe and Istendil, wasn't there
any "sharing information between characters"?
I'm sure it is not needed to go anywhere when you can just
grep through the sources to find the quest item.
Of course, Istendil was cool and bla bla bla, but the rule
violation is obvious, isn't it?

I'm not sure whether agentXXX was right about Sebeok and
Mendeiron. If yes, this is the example of imm's pk char.
If not, excuse me, Sebeok and Mendeiron.

Another exmple of pure pk imm char was Yaethle, I think.

This was already discussed not once, so I'll repeat it briefly.
If you set some rules, be the first person to follow these rules.
Otherwise they are shit.

You may think, that, as immortals keep the mud running, they
have right to get small bonuses from it. I can't agree.

Do they spend more time on it than mortal players?
Obviously not.

Do they do their job better than some other people could,
which they call unworthy?
We don't know, since we can't check it on practice.

Do they love mud more than other people playing it?
No, no, NO!

So tell me Shokai, what do you do when you see higher imm
... eh ... acting not exactly within the rules?
I'll tell you. You keep silence. And Arolin is the target
you cannot miss shooting at.

"But I digress again..."
Nepenthe/Istendil


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