It's about trust.

February 19, 2014 06:41AM
From the helpfile:


"Certain characters may use this command to request items worn by or in the
inventory of a willing NPC. Good-aligned characters may use this command
to request items from good-aligned NPCs, and Outlanders may request items
from certain NPCs that share their affinity for nature, with the exception of those
of a dark heart who lack the generosity to forfeit their belongings.

Response to a request represents an NPC's trust in the specific character making
that request, and making requests for others is considered an abuse of that trust.
Abuse of the request command in this manner is subject to consequences."


If you notice the latter part there, "making requests for others is considered an abuse of that trust." Imagine if someone walked up to you and asked you for something. You feel good about that person and decide you can part with that something and hand it over. Next thing you know, that person gives the something away to someone else, someone you have never seen before. How would you feel about it? Request is a special case, I dont think anyone can argue that a goodie giving away stuff he got from killing a dragon or something is bad but asking a goodie for items just to hand them over to a lowbie...not quite the same.

I'm not really sure how to deal with the situation where you request an item and use it for a while. When you later find something better and replace it, what should you do with the requested item? Go back to the npc and give it back or sac it? I personally find another goodie char and give it to them or leave it in a cabal pit or something. But some people, like Murphy, seem to frown on it because it goes against the trust part of request and I can sort of agree with that.
Subject Author Views Posted

Revenge!

LogFiend 823 February 16, 2014 08:00PM

"A noob" almost killed you for a third time. Looks like you only won because of RNG. I imagine you're a worse PKer than Jycenna. (n/t)

Srev 242 February 17, 2014 07:31AM

Well, at least she wasn't carrying anything someone would've had to request for her. So some cool points for that.

sevriis 297 February 17, 2014 03:34AM

Is that not still against the rules? (n/t)

funnyone 241 February 18, 2014 03:58AM

It is, but some goodies think it's okay to request something, wear it for a while, then give it away when they get something better for themselves. (n/t)

Murphy 246 February 18, 2014 04:48AM

Can you tell me why there's a problem with this? (n/t)

Wanderlust- 258 February 18, 2014 12:34PM

It's about trust.

Darbhi 341 February 19, 2014 06:41AM

Waiting X hours before giving it to a lowbie undermines why the rule is there in the first place.

Murphy 245 February 19, 2014 05:57AM

Alright, is it okay for an evil to kill the midnight dragon for a lower evil? (n/t)

Wanderlust- 274 February 19, 2014 06:16AM

Why not? Helping someone doesn't mean you care about them like goodies about each other.

Murphy 255 February 19, 2014 08:04AM

Did they change it so assassins can't throw another? I thought they couldn't. "You roll out of an .... (n/t)

funnyone 234 February 17, 2014 01:25AM

Master of Nage Waza? (n/t)

Murphy 263 February 17, 2014 01:43AM

Tbh, this patently shows why I don't like logs of active characters. (n/t)

Murphy 243 February 17, 2014 03:35AM

Thaaaaaank you! (n/t)

Frosty 249 February 17, 2014 09:57AM

Jycenna is cool but it was time for a full loot. I don't think he's a noob. He's got guts (n/t)

funnyone 286 February 17, 2014 01:24AM

Three items were taken in the log. Typing "get all corpse" does not automatically make a full loot. (n/t)

Matrik 251 February 17, 2014 06:54AM

Time for a full loot?your an ass if you full loot period. (n/t)

Malgrim 254 February 17, 2014 05:04AM

Thank god you threw in period part. I can see reasons to do it. (n/t)

funnyone 240 February 17, 2014 05:29AM

Meh, troll harder, the worse you treat players in game the less players you have to grief. (n/t)

Malgrim 282 February 17, 2014 07:14AM

I'm far from a "griefer" in game. I'm actually the evil scion or imperial who will help you get armor. That's not really the scion/imperial way but I still do it. (n/t)

funnyone 227 February 18, 2014 03:57AM

I've died to funnyone. Didn't get treated that bad. (n/t)

Zruulg 226 February 17, 2014 02:06PM

It would take so very much for me to fully loot. I did it against a mouth of aural thief within the fortress as his griefing passed me off and instantly got a title for it. So, I went and did it again until he stfu (n/t)

funnyone 288 February 18, 2014 11:20AM

It just depends on what I'm wearing. I don't really loot much. I don't even full loot teslines characters after they die but they cry like I do. (n/t)

funnyone 233 February 18, 2014 03:55AM

You don't kill me funnyone. Oh wait you killed my healer with a cranial spamming fire giant. Leet skillz. (n/t)

tesline 282 February 18, 2014 06:29AM

I nominate you for the "Jerry award" delusional, ignorant, liar and constantly giving out bad cf info. I've killed you so very many times. (n/t)

funnyone 249 February 19, 2014 06:04AM

Your healer, invoker multiple times, your two crap shaman, your warrior....that's all I remember as do now (n/t)

funnyone 242 February 18, 2014 11:18AM

Damn you must be SKILLED to kill a lowbie invoker that is vuln lag.

tesline 282 February 18, 2014 11:46AM

Vuln lag, that's funny. What's also funny is you deny he killed you, then he reminds you he did, and then you try to cop out saying it was a no skill kill.

Frosty 291 February 18, 2014 01:25PM

I still don't get it

Randomguy 254 February 18, 2014 11:31PM

Only when he's being cheeky ;) (n/t)

Frosty 224 February 19, 2014 06:58AM

Which personality is this? Seems kind of Jerry based. But, it is sweet that his, just an angry brother comes to his rescue. I be you both log on at the same time, too. (n/t)

funnyone 216 February 19, 2014 06:07AM

There is no proof he killed me btw. He doesn't claim his shittastic characters. (n/t)

tesline 253 February 18, 2014 05:04PM

Come on you have to have died to Funnyone cause I've killed you.

Malgrim 255 February 18, 2014 09:03AM

Should read the other way. You died to him as a healer? Leet skillz. (n/t)

Murphy 264 February 18, 2014 06:55AM

Was it more or less leet then wrath and bash?

Dalbrin 257 February 18, 2014 06:33AM

You like to sac unholies though, whether they have 30 charges or 0 (n/t)

Elystan 251 February 18, 2014 04:32AM

You struck sek like he never practiced spear. You weren't good at pk so I killed you a bunch of times and sacrificed your weapon. For perfected parry and riposte I could parry anything with speed. I assumed it had charges in it. (n/t)

funnyone 239 February 18, 2014 11:24AM

The only charges you destroyed were 30 in a weapon. You might say I sucked at Pk when you refused to fight me, but what's your record for an A-P weapon?

Elystan 269 February 18, 2014 11:57AM

I constantly did it because the other imperials were telling me how pissed of you'd get and screaming over the cabal channel. I'm sacrificing each unholy. It's the drawback of playing an AP (n/t)

funnyone 220 February 19, 2014 06:09AM

And that's wrong? (n/t)

alansmithee 248 February 18, 2014 06:57AM

Like the other character typed the word THE. How dare they. (n/t)

tesline 244 February 17, 2014 07:05AM

And you respond with full loot? Meh.

Murphy 324 February 16, 2014 08:28PM

Look at his armor. He just got a lucky break. That guys been rocking that kind of armor for a long time. I'm sure he will get it back. (n/t)

funnyone 303 February 17, 2014 01:27AM

I don't get it. Looks like you both entered basically the exact same commands. How do I tell which one is the newbie? (n/t)

Matrik 235 February 16, 2014 08:23PM



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