I can say Baer believes it is illegal for certain

November 14, 2014 07:21AM
I was playing a baer paladin, orderly/sphere purity a couple years back, a necro broke into the warrior guild to try to kill another Fort member. I went in after and healed him, but did not strike the necro. Necro worded leaving zombies behind. I asked the tribs on at the time if it was illegal to kill unattended pets and was told it was not, go for it. Attacked zombies and quickly heard a jaguar growl in anger via personal echo.

Post death followed up with her on it was told that the imms have a super secret law breaking channel, and this action got reported on it. So they view it as illegal both to attack pets with owners or without in protected areas.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2014 07:23AM by Ayathkiran.
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Always wondered if this was against the laws since rarely enforced

LogFiend 722 November 12, 2014 05:24PM

I want to fight with a tattooed criminal in town as a Tribunal and mark their imm for assisting when the tattoo fires.~

ibuki 264 November 14, 2014 09:49AM

You can't. I've observed people issuing warrants because they could not mark an Imm themselves. (n/t)

Murphy 210 November 14, 2014 07:55PM

I can say Baer believes it is illegal for certain

Ayathkiran 360 November 14, 2014 07:21AM

She would be correct. Attacking any mob is technically illegal.

Matrik 290 November 14, 2014 07:26AM

I support this log

Zheeser 311 November 13, 2014 12:37PM

It is only illegal if the Provost or Justiciar say it is illegal. I've said both ways in the past. n/t

jalim 269 November 13, 2014 01:00PM

help laws

Zheeser 330 November 13, 2014 03:59PM

Typical CF bullshit. Posting your triumphant log of getting someone wanted instead of killing them yourself.. (n/t)

The_Joker 217 November 13, 2014 05:10AM

Here's the thing

daurwyn(VIP) 336 November 13, 2014 08:56PM

summon might not do the trick

Quas 273 November 14, 2014 04:11AM

Yes and that is a very unpaladinly tactic

Elystan 306 November 14, 2014 02:17AM

What was unpaladinly about it?

Matrik 226 November 14, 2014 07:13AM

It is not clearly stated in the helpfiles, but attacking someone's pet(inside a protected area) is grounds for a warrant. By breaking the law in this way he also broke the paladin's code. That's all folks. (n/t)

Frosty 201 November 14, 2014 10:34AM

It isn't clearly stated in the law or helpfile because it isn't a law. It is open for interpretation. n/t

jalim 234 November 14, 2014 11:49AM

You are still starting from a false assumption. (n/t)

Matrik 199 November 14, 2014 10:39AM

You shouldn't expect a human's point of view to be the same as a gnome's. (n/t)

Frosty 192 November 14, 2014 10:45AM

I'm unfriending you. You've betrayed my trust, and now my race. (n/t)

Matrik 186 November 14, 2014 10:53AM

We were friends before? All you do, well mostly anyway, is insult my intellect. Or rather my lack of. (n/t)

Frosty 194 November 14, 2014 10:58AM

You read insult far more than insult is intended. (n/t)

Matrik 204 November 14, 2014 11:02AM

Well at least I now know for sure you were being intentionally insulting. (n/t)

Frosty 203 November 14, 2014 07:18PM

Actually, in this entire thread, I was not intentionally insulting one time. (n/t)

Matrik 195 November 14, 2014 08:01PM

Shenanigans.

Frosty 241 November 15, 2014 08:48AM

Re: you lie

MiyagiYojimbo 198 November 18, 2014 12:44PM

TURN BACK NOW. Nothing to be gained from reading it (n/t)

Demtok 229 November 14, 2014 10:21AM

That is not a very nice thing to say. (n/t)

Matrik 210 November 14, 2014 10:28AM

I've saved literally thousands of users from wasting their time down a troll hole (n/t)

Demtok 176 November 14, 2014 10:31AM

You wound me sir. (n/t)

Matrik 240 November 14, 2014 10:33AM

Deathblow is OP

Demtok 184 November 14, 2014 10:35AM

Guffawed. Classic Demtok. I wish "you know who" had your wit. (n/t)

Matrik 251 November 14, 2014 10:40AM

The slave is part of the orc's group and gets to enjoy the same level of protection as the orc. That is not up for discussion. The paladin broke tribunal law, and therefore the paladin's code. (n/t)

Frosty 223 November 14, 2014 07:15AM

I agree.

DurNominator(VIP) 311 November 15, 2014 02:22AM

If it wasn't up for discussion, we wouldn't be discussing it. Read "Help Laws" (Editted)

Matrik 209 November 14, 2014 07:18AM

Once a mob joins the group of an adventurer, they are also an adventurer. It goes both ways. (n/t)

Frosty 222 November 14, 2014 07:22AM

That is not stated in the laws and therefore isn't a law. Just a Frosty assumption/conclusion.

Matrik 203 November 14, 2014 07:24AM

I've been flagged for it, and I've seen other people get flagged for it. I have seen a trib imm explain how it is illegal and I have shared the reason with you.

Frosty 217 November 14, 2014 07:27AM

I've seen cops beat black people and not be punished for it. I guess it's legal to beat black people. (n/t)

Matrik 189 November 14, 2014 07:29AM

Yeah because an online game and real life are the same thing. Wait... (n/t)

Frosty 198 November 14, 2014 07:30AM

I was elucidating the flaw in your logic, not comparing the game to real life. (n/t)

Matrik 217 November 14, 2014 07:30AM

It may not have been your intention, but you did. (n/t)

Frosty 177 November 14, 2014 07:32AM

You FrostyAssumed that I was doing so. It's a common mistake.

Matrik 235 November 14, 2014 07:33AM

No, you did. See, right there. (n/t)

Frosty 190 November 14, 2014 07:36AM

I feel that I have exhausted your ability to discuss/debate intelligently. Until next time foul Frosty, enjoy your existence. (n/t)

Matrik 217 November 14, 2014 07:37AM

I don't think I've ever had that ability. Also, you've confirmed my assumption of your actions here.

Frosty 209 November 14, 2014 07:40AM

I've never understood why my passion for lively debate is mistaken for trolling.

Matrik 200 November 14, 2014 07:43AM

It's not lively debate when you know you're wrong. Where is the law that specifically states it's illegal to attack a conjurer's servitors? (n/t)

Frosty 195 November 14, 2014 07:45AM

I think you misunderstand the purpose of debate/discussion.

Matrik 206 November 14, 2014 07:50AM

No, you don't think that. You're simply trolling, and it's annoying. (n/t)

Frosty 205 November 14, 2014 07:55AM

Again. I'm not trolling. This is a discussion on the intricacies of Tribunal law, how they are enforced, and how the playerbase expects them to be enforced.

Matrik 237 November 14, 2014 07:56AM

You know how I know you're trolling? You say you're not trolling. (n/t)

Frosty 217 November 14, 2014 08:00AM

You are what is wrong with America.

Matrik 228 November 14, 2014 08:02AM

Again you compare an online game to real life.

Frosty 193 November 14, 2014 08:04AM

Your FrostyAssumption sensibilites are failing you today my friend.

Matrik 229 November 14, 2014 08:06AM

You admit you lied. Thank you. (n/t)

Frosty 216 November 14, 2014 08:08AM

Allow me to share the definition of "farcical"

Matrik 191 November 14, 2014 08:13AM

Too late, you lied and you admited it.

Frosty 239 November 14, 2014 08:16AM

Whether or not I lied is up for interpretation, much like the Tribunal laws concerning pets and mobs. (n/t)

Matrik 227 November 14, 2014 08:16AM

Here you're right about one thing, but wrong about another.

Frosty 199 November 14, 2014 08:18AM

I'm afraid your wish for me to be wrong in one case, but no the other, has no bearing on the correctness of both statements.

Matrik 257 November 14, 2014 08:44AM

"I'm not trolling" - Matrik

Frosty 181 November 14, 2014 08:46AM

I really just don't understand what you consider trolling.

Matrik 250 November 14, 2014 08:51AM

Because I know you understand the situation, but would rather split hairs. It's not clearly stated in a helpfile, but attacking someone's charmie in a protected city is grounds for a criminal warrant.

Frosty 230 November 14, 2014 09:04AM

Shitstorm?

Matrik 201 November 14, 2014 09:11AM

No, you trolled. I stayed on topic.

Frosty 269 November 14, 2014 09:18AM

You should reread the thread, and that post specifically.

Matrik 272 November 14, 2014 09:20AM

God you're a horrible liar.

Frosty 214 November 14, 2014 09:28AM

I'm glad that you are done. It is probably the best course of action for you.

Matrik 198 November 14, 2014 09:36AM

I would like to add:

Matrik 223 November 14, 2014 09:43AM

Here is part of a private messge you sent me a while ago.

Frosty 212 November 14, 2014 09:45AM

Another case of FrostyAssumption.

Matrik 195 November 14, 2014 10:06AM

Either way you are wrong. n/t

jalim 229 November 14, 2014 08:27AM

Orcs are cowardly and cunning

Dalbrin 211 November 14, 2014 03:46AM

Re: Yes and that is a very unpaladinly tactic

Teamkiller 310 November 14, 2014 02:27AM

Cosign. This is the petty faggotry that gets under my skin.

physics 292 November 13, 2014 06:18AM

Maybe we should post insulting comments about and photos of IMPs?

Zruulg 317 November 13, 2014 11:28AM

No

physics 230 November 14, 2014 06:33AM

NO

Frosty 208 November 14, 2014 07:02AM

How did he break the paladin's code? (n/t)

Matrik 188 November 14, 2014 07:04AM

There's a few laws to the code that are written in invisible ink.

Frosty 214 November 14, 2014 07:06AM

Kind of like the invisible law that the Tribunal was enforcing? (n/t)

Matrik 240 November 14, 2014 07:07AM

The first law is VERY visible. The paladin broke the first law. Just because it was a charmie doesn't make it any less of an offense. (n/t)

Frosty 266 November 14, 2014 07:10AM

He did not break the law as posted.

Matrik 227 November 14, 2014 07:14AM

Yes he did.

Frosty 256 November 14, 2014 07:18AM

Help Laws is a short helpfile.

Matrik 216 November 14, 2014 07:19AM

Was the pet in the orc's group? (n/t)

Frosty 258 November 14, 2014 07:22AM

Yes. Which makes no difference where the law is concerned except in terms of offensive action of groupmates. (n/t)

Matrik 217 November 14, 2014 07:25AM

Yes, it does make a difference. (n/t)

Frosty 216 November 14, 2014 07:28AM

Not according to the laws as posted.

Matrik 179 November 14, 2014 07:30AM

Yes, according to the laws. (n/t)

Frosty 221 November 14, 2014 07:31AM

Help Laws is a short helpfile. Please copy/paste the relevant section which states attacking mobs is illegal. (n/t)

Matrik 204 November 14, 2014 07:31AM

1. (n/t)

Frosty 211 November 14, 2014 07:34AM

Thank you. I will take this as permission to warrant evil people ranking in Voralia. (n/t)

Matrik 222 November 14, 2014 07:35AM

Only if the attacked voalian mob was enslaved or charmed somehow, thus being part of an adventurer's group. Yes you man. (n/t)

Frosty 247 November 14, 2014 07:37AM

Help Laws does not make the distinction. (n/t)

Matrik 226 November 14, 2014 07:38AM

Well

NbM(VIP) 222 November 14, 2014 07:40AM

I'm not sure Matrik knows what a cabal is, or what you can read inside the different ones. (n/t)

Frosty 230 November 14, 2014 07:42AM

FrostyAssumptions are not good for your health, I think. I do in fact know what a cabal is and much of their internal documentation.

Matrik 218 November 14, 2014 07:52AM

That wasn't an assumption. In fact it was the opposite of an assumption, so I feel like you are the one with definition issues. (n/t)

Frosty 176 November 14, 2014 07:59AM

You are assuming I don't know what a cabal is or what information is inside one.

Matrik 196 November 14, 2014 08:01AM

No assumption, just not sure. President, Not Sure. (n/t)

Frosty 225 November 14, 2014 08:02AM

You are unsure if your assumption is correct. I get that.

Matrik 192 November 14, 2014 08:05AM

No, it's really not.

Frosty 200 November 14, 2014 08:09AM

I fear my skills of explanation are insufficient to cure your ignorance on the matter. (n/t)

Matrik 220 November 14, 2014 08:15AM

Not really, you still claim it's within Thera's laws to attack someone's charmie in a protected city when you know it's illegal.

Frosty 236 November 14, 2014 08:17AM

Your response to my post does not make sense. Please elucidate or rephrase. (n/t)

Matrik 232 November 14, 2014 08:19AM

You be trollin', I be rollin'.

Frosty 231 November 14, 2014 08:20AM

Your whimsical response holds no purpose. I think VIPs should consider moving you to the "shit posting" board. (n/t)

Matrik 202 November 14, 2014 08:23AM

I'm simply telling like it is. You're the asshole saying crap like "America doesn't care about poeople like you" in a conversation about an online game. (n/t)

Frosty 208 November 14, 2014 08:26AM

I'm afraid you have misread my words once again, sir.

Matrik 222 November 14, 2014 08:29AM

"You are what is wrong with America." - Matrik (n/t)

Frosty 195 November 14, 2014 08:32AM

Please reread the post, specifically the post script. Also, try to use some of the context of the discussion in determining meaning. (n/t)

Matrik 263 November 14, 2014 08:36AM

I would have no doubt that there is, however those documents are not available to all.

Matrik 243 November 14, 2014 07:41AM

Who the fuck cares? The entire tribunal cabal concept is retarded. So are tehse arguements. So is this log. Gaaah nt

physics 228 November 14, 2014 07:29AM

This I agree with...to a point

NbM(VIP) 233 November 14, 2014 07:35AM

Well we know you don't care. (n/t)

Frosty 181 November 14, 2014 07:31AM

The concept isn't, but the implementation is fouled up something awful. (n/t)

Matrik 225 November 14, 2014 07:31AM

What is the hate with CF being so big?

Nurok 258 November 13, 2014 06:42AM

It's a good log

daurwyn(VIP) 272 November 13, 2014 07:17AM

I agree with you. But....

Nurok 252 November 13, 2014 08:22AM

Wasn't expecting my post to follow yours

daurwyn(VIP) 213 November 13, 2014 09:59AM

Followup: Something tells me that were the elf pally in his range, he'd be dead before the trib arrived.

Nurok 361 November 13, 2014 06:00AM

Suppose you were right - it's one thing to do it, it's another to think you're a hot shit because you did it. (n/t)

The_Joker 191 November 13, 2014 12:34PM

Meh, in this day and age?

NbM(VIP) 254 November 13, 2014 12:53PM

......

NbM(VIP) 261 November 13, 2014 06:15AM

Shit - In my defense I have a sinus infection :P.

Nurok 204 November 13, 2014 06:18AM

Get well soon friend. (n/t)

Matrik 259 November 13, 2014 06:53AM

Thanks man, just me and my Nety pot vs the evil sinus goblins.

Nurok 270 November 13, 2014 07:02AM

Nety pot? Try com 'wrath';com 'wrath';com 'wrath';com 'wrath'; (n/t)

Matrik 199 November 13, 2014 07:03AM

Have you never used " ! " before?

Demtok 205 November 13, 2014 10:28AM

No. That is cheating. (n/t)

Matrik 260 November 13, 2014 01:01PM

Sinus goblins are only seasonal (n/t)

HairyOrangutan 190 November 13, 2014 08:09AM

Guess we know who the paladin is. (n/t)

Artificial 178 November 13, 2014 05:20AM

It isn't Batman! Could it be the other guy? (n/t)

Nurok 200 November 13, 2014 05:58AM

It depends on current Provost. It's one of the things that goes back and forth policy wise depending on leadership. n/t

jalim 208 November 13, 2014 01:16AM

Pwned

Demtok 322 November 12, 2014 06:01PM

I enjoyed the triple cutoff at the end. (n/t)

Elystan 212 November 13, 2014 02:49AM

That skill

daurwyn(VIP) 282 November 13, 2014 11:51AM

Ditto. I asked on officials once, I think Daev said it's just skill %. (n/t)

The_Joker 219 November 13, 2014 12:36PM

I just enjoy watching paladins die (n/t)

HairyOrangutan 225 November 13, 2014 03:51AM

I moreso like killing them myself ;) (n/t)

Nurok 228 November 13, 2014 04:41AM

Yay forum warriors! (n/t)

Murphy 209 November 13, 2014 06:24AM



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