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April 04, 2009 03:13PM
Arials get fly, yes, and wingsweep is sweet for characters that can't see hidden as it gives an opportunity to bring thieves, assassins, rangers, and Outlanders out from hidden. This is overly awesome for a rager against assassins. It's a different kind of niche than swiftstrike.

Stoneskin timer is less relevant at hero. You can get stoneskin for free for what, a 1/3 of a char's hero life? Consider a thousand hit points - stone skin adds on about 333. I consider that better than a few swiftstrikes. Again, swiftstrike is really only useful when a high avg weapon is used against a non-protected opponent.

I've argued for dark-elves to get something extra. A short levitation timer would be nice (can't use it in combat though).

Swiftstrike is just flashy, that's all. And again, you're seeing it on a build that maximizes swiftstrike.

Elves (except paladins, imo) in general needed something to help out in general combat. Evade and swiftstrike have helped.
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Firhindil and Flaire in the arena.

LogFiend 861 April 04, 2009 07:17AM

Are STSF charges being edited? ~

_Magus_ 293 April 04, 2009 10:06AM

STSF does not work on Arena as I know (not sure though) nt

dervish 225 April 04, 2009 02:39PM

If so, this is a recent change. I definitely recall fighting Iltanthal

vortex_magus 343 April 04, 2009 03:30PM

Re: If so, this is a recent change. I definitely recall fighting Iltanthal

frae 353 April 04, 2009 08:39PM

That inherent is lame IMO n/t

hopelessdwarf 304 April 04, 2009 09:25AM

what, swiftstrike? 600 hp at hero is lame too, in a diff way.

vortex_magus 319 April 04, 2009 09:28AM

I just disagree with an inherent that acts like riposte/concealed/ etc and fires on a pretty decent basis n/t

hopelessdwarf 257 April 04, 2009 09:39AM

In the log below,

The Forsaken(VIP) 419 April 04, 2009 10:10AM

It doesnt win fights but it chipping off 200-400 hp dependent on the fight is lame n/t asdf

hopelessdwarf 252 April 04, 2009 10:52AM

Meh? That's a really poor argument. Elves are underpowered to begin with.

Yhorian(VIP) 354 April 04, 2009 12:14PM

Oh really?

Elhe 386 April 04, 2009 12:21PM

Played a lot goodie elves lately? Who/when was your last? n/t

vortex_magus 271 April 04, 2009 02:05PM

As Russian Overlord, I can say he played one that helped my bro delete one of his chars. NT

Sam 224 April 04, 2009 08:00PM

Your English is too good for a russian overlord

dervish 296 April 04, 2009 08:09PM

Sneak and swiftstrike. I'm not seeing anything else.

The Forsaken(VIP) 353 April 04, 2009 01:10PM

Int and dex?

dervish 321 April 04, 2009 02:54PM

Int is more important as resist to mental and spells nt

alex 251 April 04, 2009 04:29PM

Ok I guess Ill just display thoughts fully

hopelessdwarf 349 April 04, 2009 02:33PM

Response.

The Forsaken(VIP) 513 April 04, 2009 03:13PM

Damit, Forsaken, Don't You Get It?

Quixotic 396 April 04, 2009 04:19PM

I thought they took that out of the game.

jalim 335 April 05, 2009 05:50AM

Im with Hopelessdwarf on this one. All you have to do is throw up a few protections...

aussie13 380 April 04, 2009 02:28PM

It's strongest on a warrior with the swiftstrike edge than another other char. And it only fired 4 times. nt

Yhorian(VIP) 273 April 04, 2009 09:54AM



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