The problem with 'everyone knows now'

March 28, 2012 05:07AM
is that we shouldn't have to figure out such important live or die aspects of PK from a log being posted on dios that looks like abuse of a bug. Taking the time to track both these forums and the officials (especially bug submissions) is yet another battle in the war of CF information.

Also, I'm all for entwine having more disadvantages, but this goes so far as being an advantage for the other player to get entwined, and requires them to purposefully spam flee for it to work. If the intent is just to make orcs dangerous to entwine, clearly there are better ways. It's gotta be just something that's difficult to code around.


That said, props to Krunk for posting this.
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20120312202031:You land the killing blow against Quelyn.

LogFiend 491 March 27, 2012 06:48PM

I gotta agree, that seems like shitty by design. Doesn't seem right that you can game the system that way. NT

Sam 165 March 27, 2012 07:32PM

To expand more, Quelyn should be able to get a some parting blows if he's going to spam flee. NT

Sam 167 March 27, 2012 07:32PM

I'm not certain I agree

vortexmagus 207 March 27, 2012 11:50PM

Okay, lets go from a RP perspective then. Why would an Orc know that if he 'spams flee' he'll get extra attacks every round? n/t

jalim 158 March 28, 2012 01:47AM

I view it like a cornered orc. If an orc is tied up, he's going to flail wildly. Similar to throwing a net around a deer and what not.

Batman 198 March 28, 2012 02:48AM

Eh, it's still an exploit no matter how you look at it.

zannon 182 March 28, 2012 04:37AM

Daevryn confirmed this is acceptable and not an exploit.

Batman 202 March 28, 2012 04:51AM

I see it more of just how many times you can spam flee in between rounds of combat.

zannon 184 March 28, 2012 07:04AM

He got 5 attacks out of it, not 11.

RobDarken 174 March 28, 2012 08:09AM

Really (serious question)? This is not all last stand firing? or attempting to?

zannon 188 March 28, 2012 09:11AM

Nope, I was wrong about the number. (n/t)

RobDarken 157 March 28, 2012 09:20AM

"How is anyone supposed to be able to survive that without pure RNG luck?"

Matrik 197 March 28, 2012 07:48AM

It's not just entwine that spamming flee will apply to, just an FYI

zannon 156 March 28, 2012 11:11AM

Doesn't matter. That's just an argument for "working as intended". (n/t)

Matrik 142 March 28, 2012 11:33AM

Make that a subclass

sez 217 March 28, 2012 08:26AM

Excellent post. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 158 March 28, 2012 07:49AM

And I'm fine with that, personally. Don't entwine an orc.

Batman 187 March 28, 2012 07:46AM

That's pretty much my take away from this. Never entwine orcs with this skill.

zannon 162 March 28, 2012 09:22AM

My hunch is that you can't wimpy out of it (n/t)

sez 161 March 28, 2012 07:44AM

Your analogy is off slightly. It would be like a warrior spamming bash on a necromancer .... if the failed bash did damage and no lag to the warrior.

Sam 174 March 28, 2012 05:37AM

That would make it pretty worthless.

RobDarken 170 March 28, 2012 07:56AM

Abuseable? Really?

Matrik 163 March 28, 2012 06:10AM

Orcs are OP bro.

Batman 172 March 28, 2012 05:45AM

The problem with 'everyone knows now'

Coumidin 248 March 28, 2012 05:07AM

Yeah, I can see this, I didn't see it as a 'surprise' given I have done a bunch of orcs and know orc skills. NT

Batman 186 March 28, 2012 05:08AM

Ban. (For abusing the bug) n/t

kostyan 162 March 27, 2012 09:15PM

Sadly, it's "By (shitty) design" according to Nepenthe.

Sam 210 March 27, 2012 09:47PM

Some things to consider

kostyan 255 March 28, 2012 12:22AM

I do remember you evil bastard :)

Sam 224 March 28, 2012 05:32AM

Yeah, I have no issue with an orc having an ability that specifically works well against entwine like that.

Batman 208 March 28, 2012 12:37AM

Why don't you tell the briar story since you brought it up.

DurNominator(VIP) 215 March 28, 2012 12:31AM

Check this log.

Darbhi 242 March 28, 2012 01:20AM

I exploited the bug with briars. They removed it from me (with couple other supps and skill) and from the game. Later I got it back and

kostyan 225 March 28, 2012 01:06AM

I think I just heard the sound of Zanzarin orgasming~ (n/t)

vortexmagus 160 March 27, 2012 06:52PM

I just think idiots like you now have a proof of my wise words nt

zanzarin 161 March 27, 2012 08:11PM

I never disagreed with a thing you said~

vortexmagus 165 March 27, 2012 09:43PM



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