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December 04, 2012 12:47PM
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Tiarhelle Double Dies at Fort, Some RP with Oshui

yean2 548 December 04, 2012 03:29AM

zipzip (n/t)

Frosty 187 December 04, 2012 01:09PM

Fuck you for making me move this you honkey. (n/t)

Matrik 195 December 04, 2012 01:12PM

Matrik I don't know why you are such a stanuch Oshui supporter. The player is obvious and his rp is the same as his previous two just in an Oshui suit. It's mind boggling that he is so rewared. I can't but feel that he discussed possible rewards for doing (n/t)

kanye 218 December 04, 2012 02:31PM

May I suggest your ability to gauge the "obviousness" of who's playing whom is...suspect? nt

Isildur(VIP) 156 December 05, 2012 12:29PM

View my post below where I explain that my intent is not to defend him. (n/t)

Matrik 164 December 04, 2012 03:07PM

Ironically, the exact opposite happened to me when I was Vallinane.

vortexmagus 252 December 04, 2012 12:10PM

Meh. Completely different situation. Not to mention Valliane wasn't nearly as deathful as he should've been. (n/t)

kanye 214 December 04, 2012 02:20PM

Try elf thief binder lockpick and do better? Lisos had huge advantages over Vallinane~ (n/t)

vortexmagus 151 December 04, 2012 02:48PM

What huge advantages? You had cheapshot, progging eq, permafly, dam roll boost and ability to call in the gang while they are trussed or being perma-lagged via cheapshot. (n/t)

kanye 154 December 04, 2012 03:42PM

Meanwhile, Lisos had thug skills, better melee, human exp range (easy kills @ level 42), no vulns, higher base hp, higher base damage, could actually wield iron weapons...

vortexmagus 177 December 04, 2012 06:21PM

I've thought about it, but I'm not touching fortress until there are actually evils to kill. Did you see Salmt pbf? Maran at 10pks 7 deaths? gtfo (n/t)

kanye 147 December 04, 2012 07:02PM

Should grab leader and then boot the hell out of people. (n/t)

Matrik 151 December 04, 2012 07:09PM

If you walk into the inners you are fair game. That being said, Oshui should not be in fort with that kind of RP

Frosty 272 December 04, 2012 07:46AM

I find most people won't kill you if you are alone at the inner getting your stuff nt

daurwyn(VIP) 149 December 04, 2012 02:57PM

Same here, it's more fun for everyone. Still, if you do cross the line you're fair game. (n/t)

Frosty 131 December 04, 2012 03:13PM

It was more like we are not at war with you we won't take your item or raid only get ours backs. Then one day w/o note or anything fort takes the head. Though they never take it vs defenders unless Randoniel is awake. Dey scurred. (n/t)

kanye 143 December 04, 2012 09:06AM

It's rare to see any raiding without overwhelming odds these days (n/t)

Quas 137 December 04, 2012 09:59AM

Inners use skills/spells/sups too much, hard to raid without insanr odds. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 162 December 04, 2012 10:01AM

It's more than that

daurwyn(VIP) 262 December 04, 2012 02:59PM

Compared to the the other inners I wouldn't put the destructor in this category. Outside of Tribunals destructor is the weakest.

kanye 179 December 04, 2012 11:59AM

empire seems weak if you have an area attack. nt

Isildur(VIP) 164 December 05, 2012 08:00AM

Scion isn't bad for communers

daurwyn(VIP) 202 December 04, 2012 03:01PM

Case in point

NbM(VIP) 233 December 04, 2012 01:12PM

Well the executioner is still the weakest

kanye 208 December 04, 2012 01:16PM

executioner is weakest, next is a tie between outlander/battle/empire

Quas 197 December 04, 2012 07:53PM

I disagree, imho all inners need more hp but way way less action (unless there is a substantial gank against no defender or maybe just one?) (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 131 December 04, 2012 01:23PM

My biggest issue with raiding has been and always will be small nightwalkers from forsaken portal stealing. It's just dumb and takes away from cabal dynamics because nobody wants to loose all their shit. (n/t)

kanye 144 December 04, 2012 02:17PM

Way to not know which walkers steal (n/t)

Quas 138 December 05, 2012 08:58AM

Nightwalkers target the first things in inventory first. Buy a bunch of useless shit so they steal that first. n/t

Jerrokrar 167 December 05, 2012 06:37AM

This n/t (n/t)

Returner 190 December 04, 2012 10:04PM

Destructor is by far the most dangerous to a fort raiding party, unless he's unprotected.

vortexmagus 206 December 04, 2012 12:12PM

i see how a thief might think that (n/t)

Quas 161 December 04, 2012 07:46PM

Swing and a miss. (n/t)

Frosty 135 December 04, 2012 01:15PM

You realize how slim the odds of the destructor actually entwining you are? I'm not saying he doesn't do it but all I've ever from whip/flial to lash, choke, and sting. I'd rather face that than soften, slow, and burst damage every round or every other ro (n/t)

kanye 152 December 04, 2012 01:07PM

FYI, Big D never entwined Krunk. I don't think he does entwine. (n/t)

laearrist 135 December 04, 2012 01:13PM

So if it's hard we shouldn't do it?

Quas 213 December 04, 2012 10:04AM

I didnt say that, but the possibility of dying to an inner with no defender sways the decision to solo raid. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 123 December 04, 2012 10:09AM

The last war with the village was the same. nt

tesline 143 December 04, 2012 09:10AM

Not for you to say.

Matrik 234 December 04, 2012 09:05AM

Amazing that this guy's RP/role always happens to be cheap pk padding cunt. (n/t)

ORB 191 December 04, 2012 12:48PM

Amazing that you would participate in a cheat ring and then call this guy a "cheap pk padding cunt" (n/t)

Matrik 144 December 04, 2012 12:54PM

You really have no idea WTF you are talking about. (n/t)

ORB 151 December 04, 2012 06:20PM

And what cheat ring would that be? This guy refuses to form like voltron for a pittsburgh cabal takeover. (n/t)

kanye 137 December 04, 2012 02:18PM

It's something that should happen more in Maran imo.

kanye 209 December 04, 2012 12:06PM

Which is why it makes no sense that the Marshall is acting that way.

Frosty 214 December 04, 2012 12:09PM

The Marshall isn't even doing anything "evil" or "wrong" here.

Matrik 193 December 04, 2012 12:31PM

Having no problem with something that results in marans murdering neutrals and goodies is not how the marshall should act. (n/t)

Frosty 164 December 04, 2012 12:48PM

I don't get this out of the log. Please elaborate. (n/t)

Matrik 180 December 04, 2012 12:53PM

Look harder. (n/t)

Frosty 159 December 04, 2012 01:05PM

"You've shut down my arguments so now I will resort to 'do your own research'" (n/t)

Matrik 145 December 04, 2012 01:06PM

Oshui tells you 'I'm really not worried about it.' Oshui tells you 'Your forces suffer far more greatly, and mine have been instructed to ignore them like the pests they are.' (n/t)

Frosty 168 December 04, 2012 01:10PM

I don't understand how you translate this to "evil" or "unMaran" or "unleadershippy"

Matrik 181 December 04, 2012 01:16PM

He's not worried about Tiar's forces(evil/neutral/good) suffering at the hands of the fortress. Nor is he worried about his forces suffereing from something idiotic. (n/t)

Frosty 143 December 04, 2012 01:27PM

Re: He's not worried about Tiar's forces(evil/neutral/good) suffering at the hands of the fortress. Nor is he worried about his forces suffereing from something idiotic.

Isildur(VIP) 192 December 05, 2012 08:04AM

Right, so you are making assumptions that you can't know to be true or not.

Matrik 148 December 04, 2012 01:32PM

"He isn't worried about it because the village is a bunch of "pests" that they can easily ignore (not kill) and still go about their business of murdering evils." But he said they're suffering, by the fortress's hands. (n/t)

Frosty 130 December 04, 2012 01:34PM

No he didn't. Also, you are reaching a level of pedantic beyond even my own standards. (n/t)

Matrik 160 December 04, 2012 01:37PM

Yes he did, it's in the log. (n/t)

Frosty 161 December 04, 2012 01:39PM

Don't argue with Matrik. It's not worth it.

Bendak 195 December 05, 2012 12:26AM

No he didn't. It's in the log.

Matrik 192 December 04, 2012 01:43PM

That was the worst part of his RP in the log. Everything else was kosher.

Sam 181 December 04, 2012 01:15PM

He even came right out and said "This war is idiocy" (n/t)

Matrik 175 December 04, 2012 01:17PM

Ok so, per Baer the worst thing for a Maran to do is let goodies die needlessly. Oshui can easily uninduct himself and still continue to fight evil as a follower of Baer/upholding fort principles. (n/t)

kanye 163 December 04, 2012 02:24PM

Define "needlessly" (n/t)

Matrik 213 December 04, 2012 03:10PM

Non-mage forties being killing by neutral battle because oshui is too arrogant. Also I'm pretty sure battle easily has at least a 2:1 kill ratio against fort which ain't bad considering the size and presence of fort at hero. (n/t)

kanye 141 December 04, 2012 03:46PM

I thought you meant the other way around, so now I'm extra confused.

Matrik 188 December 04, 2012 04:28PM

Maran don't let a village full of evils (that they will always be at war with) dictate their actions and leadership. If they're evil, the war continues for the Maran. Forever, if needs be.~

Blackbird 204 December 04, 2012 03:06PM

Shouldn't the deaths of non-mage fortress folks at the hand of neutrals and being forced to fight other goodies in the village be enough for him to end the war? (n/t)

kanye 154 December 04, 2012 03:47PM

Please clarify. Did Oshui start the war?

Matrik 197 December 04, 2012 04:29PM

Acting outside a cabal's bounds can be roleplay as well, yes, but he's the marshall and should have higher standards.

Frosty 188 December 04, 2012 11:15AM

They define murder of evil as doing good. I'm okay with that. Baer is okay with that. Fucking Shokai was okay with that. Why aren't you okay with that? (n/t)

vortexmagus 148 December 04, 2012 12:17PM

Baer + Shokai != all fortress imms. (n/t)

Frosty 155 December 04, 2012 12:21PM

Uh.. Shokai == Maran. HE IS the Maran. So yeah...

KoeKhaos 196 December 05, 2012 02:55PM

No, but she certainly is the leading decision maker on what is acceptable Maran roleplay and what isn't.

Matrik 224 December 04, 2012 12:30PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you haven't interacted with Oshui a whole lot and in said interactions you've been a fortie. Hell I was in the fort and didn't like him. He's a hypocrit and loves to kill neutrals. omgz balance tips lets murder ne (n/t)

kanye 194 December 04, 2012 01:12PM

I have killed him once, but never spoken to or otherwise interacted with him. (n/t)

Matrik 164 December 04, 2012 01:19PM

Must've been pre-jack blaguar or you didn't loot any of his eq. His ego has grown considerably. (n/t)

kanye 190 December 04, 2012 02:26PM

Post jaguar, pre nerf. I looted his coins and nothing else, like I do to every other hero. I don't know what half their shit is. (n/t)

Matrik 176 December 04, 2012 03:11PM

Perfect lore! Or join scion/fort and discover cool eq. (n/t)

kanye 165 December 04, 2012 03:49PM

You're fucking crazy. (n/t)

Frosty 157 December 04, 2012 12:47PM

Actually, baer + shokai pretty much is all maran. Shokai was the founder, no? And Baer is the current imm overseeing it. (n/t)

vortexmagus 165 December 04, 2012 01:02PM

Yes, you are correct. That's not what he said though. (n/t)

Frosty 183 December 04, 2012 01:06PM

What? That is exactly what I said. (n/t)

Matrik 165 December 04, 2012 01:09PM

You said I said Shokai was wrong, which I never did. (n/t)

Frosty 149 December 04, 2012 01:11PM

This whole thread is you saying Shokai's Maran is the wrong way to be Maran. (n/t)

Matrik 149 December 04, 2012 01:14PM

So Shokai said it's okay to murder neutrals and goodies? (n/t)

Frosty 138 December 04, 2012 01:25PM

Nice try in twisting my words.

Matrik 206 December 04, 2012 01:27PM

No murdering of goods or neutrals took place here, but he said it's okay here. (n/t)

Frosty 155 December 04, 2012 01:30PM

No he didn't. You twisted his words to fit that description because you don't like him. (n/t)

Matrik 163 December 04, 2012 01:33PM

Yes, I don't like people who multikill, have shitty roleplay towards other characters, and get praised for it. (n/t)

Frosty 167 December 04, 2012 01:36PM

Ok, glad we could finally get to the heart of the matter instead of pretending this is about his roleplay or whether or not he deserves to be Maran. (n/t)

Matrik 194 December 04, 2012 01:38PM

This is a perfect example of his shit poor roleplay towards other characters. Damn you're crazy. (n/t)

Frosty 123 December 04, 2012 01:42PM

Now you can take my original argument against you and apply it here, since I've taken you full circle.

Matrik 159 December 04, 2012 01:45PM

You are confused at the difference between your morals and Carrion Fields morals.

Matrik 181 December 04, 2012 11:28AM

I am going from what I've learned from fortress characters and immortals.

Frosty 189 December 04, 2012 11:45AM

You are going from the opinions of a few and forgetting there are many [interpretations].

Matrik 179 December 04, 2012 11:53AM

Analogy for you:

Matrik 187 December 04, 2012 01:06PM

Not going to read cuz yo fuckin' crazy. (n/t)

Frosty 127 December 04, 2012 01:32PM

Then the imms are also douches, because I was given imm xp after calling him out IC once already. (n/t)

Frosty 126 December 04, 2012 12:05PM

How is that relevant?

Matrik 183 December 04, 2012 12:11PM

I never said anyone is "playing their role incorrectly"

Frosty 173 December 04, 2012 12:20PM

Quit saying "I'm not crazy." This isn't about that.

Matrik 215 December 04, 2012 12:27PM

I've seen plenty of leaders ride the line and get yelled at it for it.

Frosty 143 December 04, 2012 12:45PM

Exactly

Matrik 197 December 04, 2012 12:52PM

It wasn't just what he did here, but what he did during the war they were discussing. (n/t)

Frosty 195 December 04, 2012 01:12PM

You can't seriously expect me to have context beyond what is shown in the log.

Matrik 163 December 04, 2012 01:18PM

This isn't a court of law. Stop acting like a lawyer protectting an obviously guilty murderer. (n/t)

Frosty 123 December 04, 2012 01:38PM

You misunderstand my intent.

Matrik 164 December 04, 2012 01:41PM

But he's a BLACK jaguar. They're known to be grimdark and full of murder. And cat breath. (n/t)

satchmo 144 December 04, 2012 11:25AM

Wow, this is pretty close to how it is. Good job! NT

Sam 128 December 04, 2012 11:09AM

Huh. Kinda like Batman. No offense, Batmern. (n/t)

satchmo 152 December 04, 2012 11:01AM

> : - [

Batman 156 December 04, 2012 11:33AM

mmm that first one is turning me on. (n/t)

Matrik 138 December 04, 2012 11:40AM

Movie is Paprika. Watch it and get the wierdest boner ever. NT

Batman 143 December 04, 2012 11:43AM

You just went full retard. <3 (n/t)

satchmo 134 December 04, 2012 11:37AM

This isn't even my final form

Batman 223 December 04, 2012 12:07PM

This is true. The acolytes should be pushing the maran WAY harder in this regard. (n/t)

Treebeard 138 December 04, 2012 10:44AM

This is true. nt

tesline 132 December 04, 2012 09:10AM

Just saying, I'd kill you too if you walked into my inners to get your gear back - Without hesitation. NT

Batman 175 December 04, 2012 07:02AM

I would usually just walk the gear out for them

zannon 193 December 04, 2012 07:15AM

Oh I definitely do the same, I've walked out gear numerous times. But if you step back in on your own --

Batman 184 December 04, 2012 07:28AM

Meh, I can see hitting you if you're at the watcher.. but that was cuntish nt

Rade 182 December 04, 2012 06:02AM

"petulant children"... nice Oshui (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 178 December 04, 2012 03:37AM



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