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Posted by Cethern on January 11, 2000 at 17:59:22:

In Reply to: Re: Not all discussions... posted by Graatch on January 11, 2000 at 13:15:52:

What heros did you play at least? That's the only
thing that matters for the discussions you've brought
up. I would guess I was around for at least one of
them, and I'm curious. And how long ago did you play
them? (When was the purge? Only landmark in my memory)

I didn't know you were Diarmuid. It makes sense considering
all the anti-rager things I see from you. As someone who fought
Diarmuid, I have no sympathy for you. There was no way I could
kill you on my own. Not because I didn't sometimes hit hard
enough to do it, but because pincer is not an effective way to
keep someone around long enough to finish them off. The times
I remember you dying are getting assassinated by Takashimi or
Taishanrawr, once when I pincered, an assassin threw and one
other person was there doing some similar lagging thing. With
all your health and shields, there is no way just one of those
lagging attacks would have kept you in a fight until the end.
As an arial, you didn't even have to worry about flying, and your
shields nullify any vulnerabilities the race has. Just being able
to fly means if it's just you and me, there are several places you
can go to that I can't even get to. And if you're a race that can
swim, a whole lot more.

Basically, Diarmuid went from being able to take on a pack of
ragers and send us all running to actually having to learn something
new before he could be effective again. And instead, you pissed
and moaned, died a couple of times and deleted. I'm not very
impressed at all. There are so many invokers out there now that
do just fine, it would suggest that the changes made it so that a
badly played invoker (you) can no longer just kick ass left and right.
Maybe you think ranking a mage to hero means you deserve that right,
but you don't. Anyone who has played a while can do that. Just because
warriors are very good at low levels doesn't mean we should suck at high
levels. I don't play warriors to be that level 25 ass who runs around
town bashing everything. I spend as little time as possible at low ranks,
because I like the challenge of being a hero.

Complain all you want about Rager honor. We are the only cabal with
even a hint of such a policy. I won't argue low levels, but at hero
right now, you're not going to run into groups of us killing a lone
mage, save in raids. Short of inside the village, the chance of a
warrior killing you on his own is very low. The chance of a lone mage
killing a rager on his own outside the village is much higher. In a
group, very high, and you had no problems fighting in groups.

Every single class/race/cabal choice has something that they're not very
good at fighting. As Cethern I fought a mongoose for 21 rounds and didn't
hit him once. I never did well against a mongoose. A mongoose can raid
the village and tank two warriors and the destructor while whoever else came
with him does the damage. But I've seen what area songs and spells do to them,
and you realize that they're virtually useless if we had a village bard there.
I couldn't beat assassins even as a hand to hand spec, because my dex would be
so low by the end they just tore me apart.

I don't know if there would be anything I could do to make Cethern good against
a mongoose. Annoying? Yes. But as far as the assassin goes, I could get armor
so I'd at least have some strength and dex left. And frankly, there are things
you could have done as Diarmuid to be more effective. But you couldn't handle
dying and gave up.

Cethern

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