Posted by Graatch(VIP) on September 19, 2000 at 07:20:22:
In Reply to: Cliff's notes on Honor posted by Shokai(IMM) on September 19, 2000 at 03:17:04:
> Honor is honor is honor is honor. The basic principle of 'honor' doesn't change...regardless of which god presides over it. The biggest thing about honor, is that it's something that comes from within, not something that another entity governs over you. You make your choices and decide if they're honorable or not....if they're not, expect a smack down. If Honor comes from within, from yourself, and you make your choices thinking what you are doing is honorable, then how can you be smacked down? Being smacked down means someone is judging you and in fact their concept of honor does govern you. Otherwise there would be no "smack down" other than from your own conscience. You can't say honor is from within and not from without and then say a force from without will smack you down for not being honorable. What you meant to say, perhaps, is that in most cases it comes from within, and on the hard questions the outside force is willing to let you do as you believe right, but for most of the less complex questions, you will, in fact, be held to a standard set by someone else. As for the belief that honor can't be explained and either you have it or you don't, that's also not really true. The problem is that everybody who has spoken about it in this game has either changed their definitions with time and circumstances (which means they really weren't defining it as itself but only relative to the game) or doesn't want others to copy them so they beg off by saying it's too amorphous for definition. If the words fail you, one can always simply give examples. But I am confident that the concept is definable with language. You and the other immortals just dont want to because you fear hearing it over and over and over again. Understandable, but a tad dishonest.