> First, the most important piece: <br>> <br>> > And just pissed of because wasted endless hours at <br>> > the Tree waiting for you to come, doing nothing fun. <br>> <br>> While I do agree a little with Balrahd, my best advice is the following. Go out there and mix it up, explore, get a level, whatever. <br>> <br> <br> <br>Exactly. I began to try it, when realized this. I do so, but then some of them strikes and I am running like hell to the Tree. But they see healer/bard/druid healing Huntress + see me/someone other in the world and retreat after few rounds of battle (even if there are a few of them). That was not once or twice. Honestly speaking, I would not cry much if they retrieve, and I can take a good break for learning/practicing. But they dont :) So they leave. Right after 10 minutes, some Trib logs in, and moves to get the Scales. Same happens. So, they dont retrieve actually, but quickly strike and word out. There are of course some exceptions, usually leaders of cabal or Scions, which try to retrieve against two or three Outlanders. <br>But as someone said, its mine problem. <br>You can skip all said below up to "Summarizing" since its not so important. <br> <br>> Perhaps they do get together and head to the tree and you might be too late to stop them. Tough luck. At least you were out there doing something, instead of camping. <br>> <br> <br> <br>I will dance and hop around from happyness as OOC person. I am not joking. <br> <br> <br>> <br>> And now for some of your other statements: <br>> <br>> > So, lets sum up <br>> > 4 Imperials + 1 Tribunal + 1 friend + there is one Hero Nexan + maybe some others (young ones) <br>> <br>> Perhaps the nexan was busy with the veil or something, or just didn't like those imperials. Perhaps the imperials had their own RP related reasons for not enlisting others. <br>> <br> <br> <br>Perhaps. <br> <br> <br>> >We have no healers. <br>> <br>> But you had a bard. It is far more dangerous to retreive against a bard, than a healer. <br> <br> <br>Yes. Quaff resist mental + permalag him. Or lets three young ones to come against one me. <br> <br> <br>> > 7 against 4 us <br>> <br>> First of all, empire and tribunal isn't the same cabal. Sometimes they work together, sometimes they don't. A ranger tribunal might not be the best of friends with imperials in general. <br>> <br> <br> <br>They have worked together before. And well, I can understand if there is some deal like travelling together or such. But here they have to strike their common (one of the main) enemy to get their Items. <br> <br> <br>> So even if the ranger knows how many of you there are, the imperials don't. Your lay down about how many allies they have is pure speculation. Most of these are probably just former group members of some random leveling group. They certainly have little incentive to join a dangerous undertaking. <br>> <br> <br>I lay down because that 'ally' fought against us before. <br> <br>> All in all, it is one 4 vs 4 and one 1 vs four. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> > sleeks, with 2 lesser shields and two unreliable <br>> > aura preps and permafly. No reduce preps (and they <br>> > know about it). Can deafen/snare and wave goodbye. <br>> > Can permabash to hell. Still did not came. <br>> <br>> This is just ridiculous. So assuming your enemies knew you suck or whatever it is you are trying to say, they would still have to face your three allies who may not be quite as harmless. <br>> <br> <br>Not would. Could. My three allies can harm only some of them. <br> <br>Thats the same argument I've talked about, like: <br>or, but that char has sooo powerful skill/spell, I can not fight against him <br> <br>It is tough to fight bards! Oh, thats an invoker, its sooo tough to beat up. Oh, thats a warrior and he bashes, I wont fight him. Thief can BJ and knife me, so you see, there are no chances of me to beat him. <br> <br>And all such. <br> <br>To summarize it up, they can retrieve or can not. They could get resist mental + seek some allies + group alltogether + permalag me/bard and such things. They can just sit and say "Oh, there is a bard/invoker/hell knows who, its so hard to fight them". They can do something else. <br> <br>Its all up for them what to do. I am not demanding or so. I just wish to know is it _allright_ behavior for caballed people? <br> <br>> > Should not they be booted from their cabals after two seconds after such? <br>> <br>> No. <br>> > <br>> > I also remember when we had the Codex and I was the only one to defend against blood oathed paladin. <br>> <br>> Bloodoaths don't know who has their item. They can't enter the throne room. I am not even sure they can retrieve on their own. <br> <br>Thanks. <br>> <br>> > Guys do you like to suck so much? <br>> <br>> Don't point fingers, man. Show how you want it done instead. Sitting chamoed at the tree moaning about nobody retrieving gets old real fast. <br>> <br>Sorry, did not want to look like boasting one. <br>I retrieved from Scions against non Scions fire AP (though he was only briefly, at the beginning, have kicked my ass and went away), transmuter and offensive shifter . With help of lowbie transmuter and ranger and some bard songs. Spent all my so hard to get preps (I have no sleeks) <br>Post the log?