Ok, since you're new and can't send PMs, I'll give you the 411 on that comment.

Sam
January 20, 2016 02:36PM
1) My brother played MUDs before I ever did.

2) My brother played FL before CF. He was pretty good at it. He became an IMM.

3) My brother (shockingly) burned his bridges there, and lost his IMM.

4) My brother decided to take his revenge by owning newbie breads. He rolled Ivlizik. People bitched. My brother raged.

5) My brother left FL.

6) I start playing FL, because, ya know, it looked kinda cool.

7) I get banned because Rathe thinks I am my brother.

7a) I let my brother use my forum login to post a bunch of shady shit of IMM cheating etc. I get the forums shut down (KRUL THE TINKLE KING FTW).

8) I get an apology and start playing again.

9) I notice horrible RP and cheating rampant in the game. Certain players are obviously being treated differently (re: better) due to their relationships with Immortals. I decide to do something about it. I post several logs showing said horrible RP (Elf Healer hanging out with a Vampire and having 9 "children" of different races, etc).

10) Forums get shut down AGAIN. I get banned after an IMP tells me I won't get banned (and I posted that log too). I get accused of being my brother AGAIN.

11) My bro says "Hey, I'm playing this other game, but fuck, let's perma". IT IS STILL THE ONLY TIME ME AND MY BRO HAVE EVER PERMA'D.

12) We perma, destroy Desolation and several other "area explores". We get sick sets.

13) I lose link and a player logs off his current character (Duergar Cleric, who had attacked me before I teleported) and logs on his other character (Slith Thief) to wait at my pit when I reconnect. I reconnect, die to trip/tail lag, and get full-looted.

14) I realize this shit won't ever change, so I notice there is a set of logs that show a player multi-charring and the IMMs/players seemingly not giving a shit about it. I bring this to everyone's attention, am told the player was GIVEN PERMISSION TO MULTI-CHAR BECAUSE "He's a good player and Pker and he deserves it". The hypocricy is incredible. The forum gets shut down AGAIN, for the THIRD TIME.

15) I say "FUCK FL, I'm playing CF" where my brother has now had several heroes and several of my HS classmates are playing. I start playing CF. I have fun.

16) After about a year, I decide to check on FL. I immediately regret. Apparently, Behrens, their Head Coder, claims he's unable to do any coding unless he is paid for it. I notice several posts from players offering 5-100$ to get him to code. I post on the forums, expressing that I am beyond shocked that a Head Coder of a MUD is exhorting the playerbase. The forum gets shut down FOR A FOURTH TIME.


FWIW, My bro got banned here too, but no one on CF ever accused me of being him (which FL IMMs did repeatedly, because they are FUCKING STUPID).
Subject Author Posted

No more edgepoints for PK - period. Nail/Coffin?

Nurok January 15, 2016 11:02AM

If the whole point is to remove incentive for multi-killing

orbain January 20, 2016 03:31AM

A great idea for helping out new players like me

Kstatida January 20, 2016 03:09AM

There is a reason for the low numbers of players...

badboy January 17, 2016 12:51PM

There goes my idea of rolling a dwarf Edj Pont and just dying to people on purpose. (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2016 10:53AM

Could you do an evil mage instead of dwarf so Maran and Battle apps can have it easy, too? (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2016 11:09AM

Sure, except I hate Battle and will not do anything to further that cabal. (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2016 11:22AM

I appreciate and respect your consistency. NT

Sam January 16, 2016 07:28PM

Re: No more edgepoints for PK - period. Nail/Coffin?

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2016 04:26AM

This is the kind of stupid bullshit that drives ppl away from the game

zoskia January 16, 2016 04:46AM

Re: This is the kind of stupid bullshit that drives ppl away from the game

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2016 05:42AM

They long since promised they would cover somewhat by offering more immxp for various things. But in practice that is too inconsistent and some characters slip through the cracks. (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2016 07:55AM

This. (n/t)

iunna January 16, 2016 08:55AM

This is exactly what I've been trying to bring up. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2016 08:11AM

We still have an advantage over newfags that can't get 10k obs and such before 30.

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2016 04:33AM

I wonder what makes you think new people are playing? This is not a game for NEW players. Returning ones, maybe, and Vets of course. But I doubt you retain most newbies into PK ranges anyway. (n/t)

baekthestorm January 16, 2016 05:40PM

I ran into two completely new players as Soelela, and I've already seen two since she died.

bloodmoon January 16, 2016 06:17PM

Definitely newbs still arriving

daurwyn(VIP) January 17, 2016 01:51AM

Re: Definitely newbs still arriving

Telufial January 19, 2016 01:47PM

Not that different from my suggestion of giving edge points every 50 hrs

daurwyn(VIP) January 21, 2016 07:30AM

What mud did you come from? (n/t)

Rhyaldrin January 19, 2016 02:03PM

Re: What mud did you come from?

Telufial January 19, 2016 02:19PM

By strange coincidence

daurwyn(VIP) January 21, 2016 07:33AM

AHHHHHHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOO! YE SHALL NOT MENTION THAT SHITPILE OF CRAPNESS HERE EVER AGAIN.

Sam January 19, 2016 05:55PM

That's not how you build your perma, Sam

Kstatida January 20, 2016 03:04AM

Re: AHHHHHHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOO! YE SHALL NOT MENTION THAT SHITPILE OF CRAPNESS HERE EVER AGAIN.

Telufial January 19, 2016 07:11PM

Ok, since you're new and can't send PMs, I'll give you the 411 on that comment.

Sam January 20, 2016 02:36PM

Re: Ok, since you're new and can't send PMs, I'll give you the 411 on that comment.

Telufial January 21, 2016 10:52AM

Vague helpfiles are because the staff feels like it's better for the game for people to figure things out. But mechanics questions can be asked on officials in the Gameplay/Newbie forums. nt

dalneko January 21, 2016 02:58PM

I don't use AIM anymore (boo), but if you want, I have a CF-only email account.

Sam January 21, 2016 02:56PM

I remember Chueh. That really was back in the day. n/t (n/t)

QBert January 20, 2016 04:41PM

He had a few decent characters here, including an AP leader of SCION with a 90+ charge weapon. He is also TLBIV heh. NT

Sam January 20, 2016 04:59PM

Telufial and I are the good guys, though. Really :p (n/t)

QBert January 20, 2016 06:50PM

Re: Ok, since you're new and can't send PMs, I'll give you the 411 on that comment.

MiyagiYojimbo January 20, 2016 03:34PM

I might be wrong about the fourth forum shut down. My 2 post account got banned, couldn't check :) NT

Sam January 20, 2016 03:50PM

You need more posts before PM's become available. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin January 19, 2016 07:12PM

I've never noticed that restriction by the way

Kstatida January 20, 2016 03:35AM

You acquired PMs within two minutes of registering. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 20, 2016 03:56AM

Re: You acquired PMs within two minutes of registering.

Kstatida January 20, 2016 05:26AM

Well, what do you expect?

MiyagiYojimbo January 20, 2016 05:30PM

Bwahaha

Kstatida January 21, 2016 12:51AM

Re: AHHHHHHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOO! YE SHALL NOT MENTION THAT SHITPILE OF CRAPNESS HERE EVER AGAIN.

QBert January 19, 2016 07:06PM

Too late, we already know.

MiyagiYojimbo January 19, 2016 08:48PM

Re: Too late, we already know.

QBert January 19, 2016 09:46PM

Re: We still have an advantage over newfags that can't get 10k obs and such before 30.

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2016 05:39AM

As one of them who usually is an edge point giver:

xrus January 15, 2016 11:36PM

I almost never got those edge points anyway, so nothing lost.

Murphy January 15, 2016 10:09PM

How is there not an incentive to PK? Um...gear, cabal raiding/retrieval, reaching pre-set goals you set for yourself, being able to talk shit on your friends, etc.

Sam January 15, 2016 08:08PM

I don't know if it's so much a reason not to PK, but a much lower reason to take chances. I think people will be more inclined to play more conservatively if there is less to gain from it. (n/t)

baekthestorm January 16, 2016 04:55PM

Shit, gear is more a reason to play conservatively than Edge Points ever were. And gear is BETTER THAN EVER MAAAAAAAAAAAAANG! NT

Sam January 17, 2016 03:54PM

And unholy blessing. (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2016 11:35AM

You should definitely quit playing. Good bye. (n/t)

funnyone January 15, 2016 05:23PM

Misinfo (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 15, 2016 05:33PM

Could always attack someone because...idk, shooting the dark here, your RP dictates it?

bloodmoon January 15, 2016 04:06PM

In Soviet Russia, you dictate your RP to kill (n/t)

Kstatida January 16, 2016 03:49AM

Kill dictates your RP to you.

Murphy January 16, 2016 12:45PM

Ok you've managed to halt me with exception

Kstatida January 20, 2016 03:00AM

No More PK Edge Points Gets a Juicy Score of: 4.14!

Juicy January 15, 2016 12:27PM

I am in! I will log in, but won't PK!

xrus January 15, 2016 11:31PM

I join your peaceful protest... I probably won't be logging in either, but same diff. (n/t)

laearrist January 15, 2016 12:44PM

It would suck even more if daurwyn/isildur suggestions were implemented

zoskia January 15, 2016 12:17PM

Re: It would suck even more if daurwyn/isildur suggestions were implemented

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2016 04:28AM

Zoskia doesn't understand, it's difficult to have a discussion with him. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 16, 2016 05:37AM

I feel like you didn't understand our suggestions

daurwyn(VIP) January 15, 2016 02:20PM

I like it, but am concerned with Umi's attitude toward PK...

laearrist January 15, 2016 11:32AM

Easier in text for me. (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2016 12:31AM

All hail TROUPE, the new overlords

Graham January 15, 2016 11:58PM

Because 20 years ago there were edge points for racking up PK wins? nt

dalneko January 16, 2016 07:40AM

In the arms race, if one party has nuclear weapons and the other doesn't

Graham January 18, 2016 10:44AM

You're missing the point (sadface). I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Edges were the worst thing to ever happen to CF. NT

Sam January 15, 2016 08:10PM

The number of players make it difficult to make PK fun, I would guess.

baekthestorm January 15, 2016 07:46PM

Reading: I've never really been that into PK, and mostly suck with the RP or exploration stuff

Kstatida January 20, 2016 03:40AM

Theres a cabal just for you! (n/t)

orbain January 20, 2016 03:39AM

I used to try to PK people even before edges came out.....

Zruulg January 15, 2016 11:32AM

Basicly, this

Kstatida January 16, 2016 02:39AM

No. I feel the same way.

Rhyaldrin January 15, 2016 11:15AM



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