The only solution would be to disallow imms from ever playing mortals

April 11, 2018 10:13AM
Every Imm knows how the area they write works, and what it contains. For what it's worth, Balrahd was an Imm, he wrote an area and I'd wager he knows stuff about that area that nobody else knows, as well as the line Imms walk when they play morts, so I give his opinion on the topic a bit more credit than yours.
All the rest of the players are left to figure it out. If they want to. Most go to a new area, look for new gear, and if a quest triggers great, but otherwise they don't do in depth exploration, at least until they have more down time or the area is a little older (and so less crawling with people coming to pk you) There is usually a general trickle of information that comes out from new areas.

One of the ways some of the more complex aspects of an area actually do get out to mortals is through the writing immortals playing a mortal and disseminating the knowledge that way.

The simple fact is while he knew how to do or obtain something (because he created it), the ability to do it was not unique to Nepenthe or his characters.
There is a big difference between knowing the steps to do something and being the only one who can ever complete those steps.
Nepenthe and silent operated more on the former. Any character could do what he did, so long as they figured out how to. And many regular old players did just that. Sure, they burned through a hell of a lot of con and characters to do it, but they did, and that's more what Nepenthe wanted to give players in those areas, high risk high reward. If he wanted to cheat, he could just give his characters physical resist, resist magic and a whole host of other shit that nobody would ever know existed to create an uneven playing field. The fact is he really didn't need to cheat to win, he was just a better player than everyone else, and he put far more effort into one character than most of us put into ten. Nobody would argue he also didn't benefit from having a vast game and area knowledge to work with. (I always hated hell and silent because of the very OP nature of what they contain- but it was really more cause I never bothered to learn them myself)

Knowledge is not cheating. How a person comes by that knowledge can be debated as to if it is cheating, but there is no real way to insulate an area author from knowing what an area contains.
So I fail to see what you are bitching about as cheating.

Now, editing a pfile, having an Imm give him something just because- sure that's cheating. He won RCs, have you read those roles, they're quite good and should win. He was basically the type of player that Imms normally reward, just by virtue of his approach to playing the game.
Exploiting knowledge he gained by virtue of contributing an area to the game is not cheating. Being better than you because he knows more than you about CF is also not cheating.

And given when you started playing, and that Daevryn was mostly gone by then anyway, what the hell do you even care about what Nep did years ago or how he played?
How did him abusing a Ysigarth vine, or playing Cabdru or whatever, all of which was before I ever played a character in anyway impact you? If Gromm was your firsts, that was years after Daev played any real character of significance.
Subject Author Posted

Nepenthe is the worst cheater in CF history

Tolnum April 02, 2018 10:08PM

No, he wasn't.

Balrahd April 06, 2018 01:00PM

He literally altered his own pfile. Just throwing that out there. *vanish* (n/t)

Frosty April 06, 2018 01:09PM

You failed. (n/t)

Murphy April 11, 2018 02:34PM

Frosty steps out of the shadows.

Frosty April 11, 2018 02:59PM

I only look at how recently the thread itself has updated. (n/t)

Murphy April 11, 2018 03:28PM

Log Session...

MiyagiYojimbo April 11, 2018 08:56PM

When, how, and what were the circumstances? (n/t)

Balrahd April 06, 2018 01:19PM

Which time(s)?

Tolnum April 06, 2018 03:52PM

That's true - his characters were almost always rewarded but that's different than editing pfiles

Balrahd April 09, 2018 12:38PM

Really?

Kstatida April 09, 2018 02:20PM

The only solution would be to disallow imms from ever playing mortals

zannon April 11, 2018 10:13AM

Oh my oh my!

Kstatida April 11, 2018 09:54PM

Do not use the words "black" and "white", they are offensive to Americans. (n/t)

Murphy April 11, 2018 10:06PM

Did you just say something about the complete absorption or reflection of wave lengths of light?!

MiyagiYojimbo April 12, 2018 12:31AM

Both happened. nt

Frosty April 09, 2018 01:53PM

Idea creep.

Matrik April 06, 2018 06:19PM

Re: Nepenthe is the worst cheater in CF history

asker April 03, 2018 02:42PM

He gave his bard daunting presence and then toned it down.

TripHitNdip April 03, 2018 03:57PM

Re: He gave his bard daunting presence and then toned it down.

Tolnum April 03, 2018 05:58PM

Here's how:

Matrik April 04, 2018 05:02AM

Re: He gave his bard daunting presence and then toned it down.

asker April 03, 2018 05:03PM

This was leaked by another outgoing IMP at the time

Tolnum April 04, 2018 12:07PM

Re: This was leaked by another outgoing IMP at the time

asker April 04, 2018 01:38PM

I don't think Challen was too butthurt by anything CF threw at him.....

Gaplemo April 11, 2018 09:08AM

Re: I don't think Challen was too butthurt by anything CF threw at him.....

alansmithee April 11, 2018 10:56AM

On the topic of Pfile editing, try making a character with the name Vlad in it sometime. Its hardcoded not to let you, or used to be because of a fallout with Cador and Vladamir.

Gaplemo April 11, 2018 01:14PM

IIRC that was an RL thing involving a girl. Also they removed the restriction after Vlad passed. (n/t)

laearrist April 12, 2018 04:44AM

I was aware of the group, not the leader. Must have been fun to go as goodies. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 11, 2018 12:21PM

That's what I was thinking. (n/t)

Frosty April 11, 2018 12:30PM

Which Paladin? Aulrathdien was a wood elf rager NT

TripHitNdip April 03, 2018 09:21PM

He means Forodaugh. (n/t)

Murphy April 03, 2018 09:50PM

Still no answer (n/t)

asker April 04, 2018 06:16AM

He played a conjurer near the end of his reign. I forget the conjurer's name...

K-B April 03, 2018 07:15AM

Nabigah

zannon April 03, 2018 09:10AM

That is a funny name.

Murphy April 12, 2018 04:03PM

These are reserved

Kstatida April 12, 2018 09:37PM

Ebigusei sounds like a Mongol chief name. (n/t)

Murphy April 12, 2018 10:42PM

Greater archon and devil are not really much of a boost

Quas April 06, 2018 03:44PM

Out of curiousity

Dalbrin April 07, 2018 08:07AM

Re: Out of curiousity

Quas April 11, 2018 02:26PM

I had greater devil on a Scion conjurer

starbright April 12, 2018 05:04PM

I'm pretty sure he did have the greater devil conjuration skill.

Rhyaldrin April 03, 2018 08:04AM

Just let it go man...

demos April 03, 2018 02:50AM

When I deleted my heroimm the staff was not only headed in a good direction, but growing with positive morale. I doubt the new staff is in any way letting Nepenthe era stuff go on. They want the game to live. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 11, 2018 01:19PM

Good post, demos (n/t)

Noone of significance April 03, 2018 06:17AM

I second this. (n/t)

wasted April 03, 2018 07:43AM



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