I'm being very clear with what I write

November 27, 2015 11:40AM
"That's not gonna be everyone's cuppa tea. "

Of course, nobody said otherwise. Why do you feel as if you need to state this
or use it as a counterargument to what I wrote? It's irrelevant, at best.

"Often times being "optimal" and "having fun" are mutually exclusive, and I'm still of the mindset that if you're not having fun you're doing it wrong. "

Good. Who said anything about not having fun? Certainly not me.
Sometimes, it feels to me, as if one doesn't _read_ (or comprehend) what I write but instead
reacts emotionally to certain parts that one latches on which is what you're doing here.

"As for subjective opinions not furthering the argument, I'll just leave you with the following ones you interjected into the discussion: "

Again here, you're not reading what I wrote, instead you're picking and choosing what suits you.
This is what I wrote: Subjective opinions about *performance*

and by performance I'm referring to daurwyn's statements:

+ He's doing fine
+ He may not snowball
+ He is often the predator

Obviously, lots (most) of what gets discussed in this board, is subjective. But there is a *qualitative* difference
between statements of the sort daurwyn made and an argument of the sort I introduced in my initial
post, even though both are subjective. To me discussion about the 2nd seems far more productive (and useful).

So, so far you've posted to say that you don't agree with imaginary points I never made.

"If this player is having fun with his midbie Trib AP, give him advice on which spells to use, but don't tell him that he's basically doing the game wrong, and again, if he's having fun he's definitely not doing it wrong."

I offered my opinion and a method for doing things. If this isn't appreciated, lots of luck gentlemen!
You certainly didn't need to waste your & my time, in order to state the obvious.

Let me be crystal clear again:

I made an argument and introduced certain points. The base assumption that all my points depend on,
is *learning the most about the game in the shortest period of time*. You didn't have anything to say about this.
You could have come back and said "I don't think assassins are optimal, bards or xxx warriors are better because
bla bla bla". That would be great and would further the conversation in a useful way.

Instead you read things in my post that aren't there and you project and assume:

+ OP doesn't want to learn the most about the game in the shortest period of time

+ OP will find my method "not fun"

+ OP is currently having fun playing APs

+ If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. IT in this case is unqualified and so is having fun, examples:

If I spend 1 month not having fun in order to then spend 1+ years having a lot of fun is that still NOT OK in your book? You didn't say.
How about spending 3 months having lots of fun and then the next year or so hitting an invisible wall and all fun evaporating? You didn't say.

So basically it's my one assumption that nobody tried to challenge vs your multiple ones (that some could even hold in this case).

If OP is so inclined or feels that my assumption doesn't hold he can simply ignore my advice.
I can't look into his mind and figure out his current situation but you seem to have
no problem doing exactly that, by making all those assumptions of yours and telling *me* not to conduct myself a certain way.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2015 12:22PM by zoskia.
Subject Author Views Posted

Ok, this is not the log of the year!

LogFiend 717 November 26, 2015 08:42PM

Re: Ok, this is not the log of the year!

fulgore 221 December 03, 2015 12:25PM

Fantastic name. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 148 December 03, 2015 01:27PM

I was thinking the same thing :) K-K-K-Killer name! (n/t)

Frosty 170 December 03, 2015 01:44PM

You shouldn't really be playing AP if you're new to the game

zoskia 300 November 27, 2015 07:46AM

I disagree.

wrathpuppet 253 November 27, 2015 07:52AM

Well that's fine too

zoskia 280 November 27, 2015 07:56AM

Re: "learn the most about the game in the shortest period of time"

wrathpuppet 235 November 27, 2015 08:40AM

I'm being very clear with what I write

zoskia 282 November 27, 2015 11:40AM

You come across as pathologically robotic.

wrathpuppet 238 November 27, 2015 03:07PM

Don't take this the wrong way

zoskia 278 November 27, 2015 03:18PM

I seriously do not mean this to be insulting...

wrathpuppet 193 November 27, 2015 04:41PM

I get it now, Durnominator used the wrong handle to post that. (n/t)

bloodmoon 160 November 27, 2015 03:15PM

Robots don't make simple mistakes like that. Unless it was on purpose.

Murphy 152 November 27, 2015 07:16PM

^This.~ (n/t)

ekirhal 166 November 27, 2015 08:52AM

I don't agree

daurwyn(VIP) 242 November 27, 2015 07:49AM

Subjective opinions about performance do not really further this conversation

zoskia 217 November 27, 2015 07:58AM

I don't agree he needs to do more learning

daurwyn(VIP) 189 November 27, 2015 09:41AM

I do consider that form to be op

daurwyn(VIP) 377 November 26, 2015 10:14PM

Yet it can only do lightning damage.

Dalbrin 236 November 27, 2015 07:34AM

Playing it as an ambusher makes prepping it difficult, whereas people who walk in can prep all they like (if they suspect an ambush). (n/t)

Murphy 158 November 27, 2015 12:24AM

True but in practice people don't expect water ambushes

daurwyn(VIP) 250 November 27, 2015 02:35AM

The trick is to survive the first ambush....

laearrist 221 November 27, 2015 04:29AM

But with the eel, you have to be expecting the ambush

daurwyn(VIP) 219 November 27, 2015 05:20AM