Re: Also here is a explanation of why "doing it wrong" for stabbing sleeping ppl

May 08, 2019 01:58PM
On the flip side, when I was an assassin trying to kill thieves, I would a. be a felar, b. wield a staff, and c. pick edges conducive to killing thieves. It didn't work very often, because (as noted above) assassins can't reliably perma-lag.

I see two approaches, as the assassin. If the thief is someone you don't think will stick around if he misses the knockout (or if you surprise him) then you lead with a one-round skill (or maybe trip) and then spam throw and hope he kills himself by spamming commands. If you think he'll stick around for a fight then you can try the "owaza surprise" method. Given thieves' low hp and the lead time on owaza you could potentially make it your first command after combat starts.

Just looked at my hero assassins. One had an infinite kill/death ratio (some kills but no deaths), and the other's ratio was between 1 and 2, which was lower than that character's overall kill/death ratio against all opponents. Of the two of them, the "worst" kill/death ratios were against anti-paladins, invokers and necromancers. I didn't take the time to isolate hero-range only; it's possible the ratios would look different if only hero-range fights were considered.
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Thug vs sleeping assassin

LogFiend 1259 May 03, 2019 11:21AM

Backfist

saagkri 732 May 06, 2019 12:43PM

You're wrong on backfist

PacMan 678 May 07, 2019 03:57AM

Ah, thanks. I thought it was on a successful dodge. (n/t)

saagkri 431 May 07, 2019 04:01AM

The echo "steps inside your stab with a quick backfist" alludes to dodge. Also as I understand the RL martial arts technique, parry is not involved (nor necessarily dodge, either). (n/t)

Calion 415 May 07, 2019 05:24AM

Daev agrees with me word for word. Believe what you want though =) (n/t)

PacMan 406 May 07, 2019 05:31AM

You could've said you were quoting Daev. :p Anyways, kinda counterintuitive, but good to know. (n/t)

Calion 403 May 07, 2019 09:38AM

Well, I can remember it wrong but

alex 507 May 10, 2019 12:10PM

Hand block (n/t)

Kstatida 380 May 12, 2019 05:12AM

alternatively, you could just take his word for it

jhyrbian 525 May 07, 2019 10:18AM

Result of broken dex changes

daurwyn 608 May 07, 2019 01:46AM

Is there anything about CF that you like or think is balanced? n/t

jalim 428 May 07, 2019 02:25AM

Lots that I like

daurwyn 509 May 07, 2019 05:38AM

I have achieved a perfect balance in cf

Kstatida 455 May 07, 2019 04:47AM

Re: Backfist

asker 554 May 06, 2019 01:34PM

In general

Kstatida 498 May 07, 2019 01:25AM

Re: In general

asker 469 May 07, 2019 10:14AM

Also here is a explanation of why "doing it wrong" for stabbing sleeping ppl

Kstatida 461 May 07, 2019 10:33PM

Re: Also here is a explanation of why "doing it wrong" for stabbing sleeping ppl

asker 490 May 08, 2019 01:58PM

Preaching to the choir

Kstatida 487 May 07, 2019 10:31PM

suckerhit with mace is nice

The Forsaken(VIP) 568 May 06, 2019 01:11PM

Re: Thug vs sleeping assassin

asker 497 May 06, 2019 11:38AM

been there, ate that. this is why the good lord made flee/knife

The Forsaken(VIP) 602 May 04, 2019 06:48AM

Guy swings her foot behind you, pulling you down with a quick jerk! (n/t)

Murphy 420 May 03, 2019 11:21PM

It's a Thai Guy (n/t)

Kstatida 363 May 04, 2019 03:08AM

Use mace as a thug

Kstatida 515 May 03, 2019 10:00PM

Assassins are a bit overtuned but: mace in melee, and direct-damage skills (n/t)

starbright 455 May 03, 2019 09:41PM

There is other option

Kstatida 607 May 03, 2019 10:02PM

loved tenderly (n/t)

Artificial 406 May 03, 2019 03:17PM



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