No way

January 14, 2008 09:01AM
There's no way that spine equals meleeing with 2 weapons. It's like using a sword/shield, but you lose all the benefits of that free hand...and the added melee defense does not equal the lack of offense - a lot of damage at high levels has nothing to do with if you spin/parry/etc. Try a bloodlusting guy with axe/flail/etc dual-wielding then a spear....I personally found the lack of offense a bigger problem than the spinning. Even two rounds of axe with faceslash/Slasher was better than Vault and 2 rounds of combat with a spear. The only real huge benefit of Vault is the huge bleeding if they make it out alive.

I didn't say it wasn't possible, I'm just saying there are better options. Waking with faceslash is plenty fine usually for landing the kill like vault, and can be done while they are awake for the same lag. Arials also have better vaults, so if you're vault happy you should them out.....I've done an arial spear AP and it was alright, but it just wasn't my style.

And until you understand the true power of crippling strikes (it's not -dexterity), you won't appreciate it enough.
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Some of my logs, will post one by one nt

dervish 1250 January 13, 2008 06:32AM

AP vs shifter and conjie on 5+ ranks lower. Sleep&vault.

dervish 780 January 14, 2008 03:39AM

AP + Ophanelu vs Joogin + Ahlvin. Close fight again.

dervish 686 January 14, 2008 03:35AM

That fight was just too damned close

istirith 467 January 14, 2008 04:00AM

Thats not in AP style of fightning (stxt)

dervish 563 January 14, 2008 04:03AM

Why the heck did you wake him with lightning bolt?

torak 432 January 14, 2008 07:24AM

Adrenalin :) Forgot about vault and this is my first ap. nt

dervish 387 January 14, 2008 08:07AM


torak 515 January 14, 2008 08:11AM

Not really

dervish 518 January 14, 2008 08:30AM

No way

torak 533 January 14, 2008 09:01AM

I've tried dualwielding

dervish 552 January 14, 2008 09:10AM

Last little tidbit

torak 639 January 14, 2008 09:17AM

Or in less ridiculous terms, theres that barbed spear its nice and light too n/t

Guy 365 January 14, 2008 11:25AM

The pitchfork is pretty easy to get

torak 489 January 15, 2008 08:04AM

Not for me.

dervish 429 January 15, 2008 11:36AM

Please email for confirmation. : P nt

The Forsaken(VIP) 281 January 15, 2008 08:05AM

from ettercap? it sucks

dervish 502 January 14, 2008 11:37AM

Think he means the vicious barbs one. nt

nightshade 331 January 15, 2008 04:22AM

Negative, The one I'm thinking of is avr 28 n/t

Guy 322 January 14, 2008 10:10PM

Then we are talking about different spears

dervish 427 January 14, 2008 10:21PM

Barbed bone javelin is average 25 if I'm not mistaken.

Sam 406 January 15, 2008 04:01AM

You are mistaken, some logs to prove

dervish 522 January 15, 2008 04:58AM

Shit, if you can get a avg 31 spear at level 40, be my guest.

Sam 434 January 15, 2008 06:47AM

I do want! I do! Feed me! :P

dervish 365 January 15, 2008 06:55AM

You're on crack if you think that weapon sucks.

Sam 450 January 14, 2008 06:38PM

AP vs village axe spec (Joogin). Very close fight

dervish 548 January 14, 2008 03:30AM

Thanks for the logs, dude. ~

_Magus_ 325 January 13, 2008 04:13PM

26 ap vs 30 villager

dervish 622 January 13, 2008 07:39AM

ap vs dagger spec (Padraig). Warning! Typical sleep+vault log

dervish 523 January 13, 2008 07:37AM


ekirhal 411 January 14, 2008 12:57PM

ap vs another assassin (Bapkruk)

dervish 478 January 13, 2008 07:22AM


ekirhal 410 January 14, 2008 12:53PM

ap vs assassin

dervish 519 January 13, 2008 07:04AM

AP vs mace spec (Zintark)

dervish 574 January 13, 2008 07:03AM

Big fight in Empire (I missed most part), first charges

dervish 546 January 13, 2008 06:58AM

Kothial vs me, Oscereld and Bleotes

dervish 543 January 13, 2008 06:54AM

My favourite bit:

NeverMindTheWarlocks 464 January 13, 2008 07:26AM

Midbie ap vs ranger

dervish 582 January 13, 2008 06:43AM

Lowbie ap half-drow vs lowbie ap drow

dervish 446 January 13, 2008 06:36AM

Fun lowbie battle in Galadon: Dagian vs asn vs warrior

dervish 748 January 13, 2008 06:33AM

My favorite part (should be sent to the IMPS) or AKA Nice timing

Sam 535 January 13, 2008 11:56AM

Yes, I just did not think about it that time. nt

dervish 352 January 13, 2008 12:47PM

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