You presumed, in your Russian obstinance, but if you call me out on logs that you and I have both read, assuming you were even around for the forum that existed before Dios, you can assume I've read them. In fact, I have most of them saved. Tell me though, where were you for Arkand, and his Ice axe Blizzard, when Hivtlok and Golmagus reigned? How well did you do against entropy before and during the emergence of Zorszaul? Scarabs candlestick, do you even have a fucking clue? Did you play against Golmagus and Zorszaul? How'd you fair against Valg? Were you Viscrinth, no. He played with a shit ton more integrity than you do with Ahtieli? He was decent, but he also had the testicular fortitude to test himself against single players. He was fairly skilled, too(understanding, of course, that they weren't nearly as powerful as the overvirtued paladins you get today, and that, according to you, the hero range is all the skilled players and none of the garbage those people faced). . How did your characters do against Zorszaul? I fought him with multiple characters, and his full army, to writhing (thank you Nicolette), in a battle you would never see today. Did you ever fight Hvitlok (predates most of these other than maybe Istendil and some random entropy chars), and how did you do? Can you even see your penis when you shower, because I bet your massive ego, and to a greater extent, your overwhelming belly, prohibit that? Seriously, these are questions you should ask yourself before you make an argument against your elders.