Skill has everything to do with it.

September 12, 2012 09:26AM
You don't want people playing intelligently? Cause, yeah, Eleagra (Alex) knows his shit in PK and knows what he is doing. Yarlgen did too, he was just a touch more reckless. And it is great when some reckless guy charges you and you kill him and get that PK. But to me, I prefer the fights where the guy fights intelligently and makes me work for it instead of just being an easy PK. (Not saying Yarglen was this- just saying getting a PK isn't everything)
A bad match up is more relevant between players of generally the same skill level. I've killed lots of people that are technically terrible match ups for my character because someone did not do what they should have to kill me easily. For berserkers, there are a lot of bad match ups for them. That they may win some of them via DB. Well, that's a perk of being a rager for the vulnerabilities the cabal brings. Villagers also die horribly all the time.

Generally skilled vs. less skilled players, the skilled player is going to win, or at the least, probably not die to, the unskilled one, regardless of the matchup.
The skilled player knows how to gear, how to prep, how to choose the fights he wants, how to set up fights to make them more favorable to him, how to rope-a-dope people, and how to avoid the ones he doesn't.
The village show cases this to an extreme- the more skilled villagers land more PKs and don't con die in under 100 hours. Yeah, some berserkers get occassional lucky kills via DB. In fights against people either caught with their pants down, people who decide to throw down til the end (knowing full well they may eat 2 deathblows next round and die) and people who just make tactical mistakes. Really, Ragers are the victims of Thera more so than anyone else in large part because of the vulnerabilities inherent to the cabal. Who would play Battle if they didn't have the ability to pick up and keep rolling quickly after death? If they could not on rare occassion pull out a miracle win? In large part I'd say they have the abilities they have because they die far more often than anyone else and nobody would play the cabal without them. Honestly, what Battleragers of late have been even remotely deadly? Considering the hundreds that go through there, I can't believe it, but I can't think of one lately. That last really deadly and feared villager I recall was Flaaayin. A thief defender. He favored survivability over DB & thirst, and ended up being far deadlier because of it I would say.

I'll wager Krunk has so many kills against Battle that it will make people think orcs are OP.
Or maybe, it's not that orcs kicks ass, it's just that Krunk's player is that good.
Same build + different player will never yield the same results. That difference in result is due to the relative skill of the players.

I'll leave it at anyone that knows what they are doing can kill a berseker given a bit of practice. And there is also a fairly good chance fights you lose due to DB, you probably would have lost to them even without them having it. Being an unprepped warrior in basic outfit gear and charging a berserker rager with bash spam? Yeah, well, that's your own fault for dying there, sorry.
That's CF. There are occassional "I have no choice but to die" fights, but they are far more rare for anyone outside of a villager.
I've never seen one of those fights though, with any character I've played, where it was a lone Battlerager Berserker with DB that made me feel like I had no chance to win, or at least survive.
I'll take fighting any Battlerager Berserker over fighting someone like Ahtieli, Tavlin, Mharldarn or hell even Flaaayin, anyday.
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You got KTFO.

LogFiend 666 September 11, 2012 02:58PM

Funniest part is...

K-B 264 September 12, 2012 03:08PM

900 hp in 4 hits...DB is OP. nt

tesline 185 September 11, 2012 03:55PM

>implying you can't do that in even less hits with DB.

RobDarken 355 September 11, 2012 04:06PM

Awesome meme arrows XD. n/t

Someone Not Special, Esquire 212 September 11, 2012 05:39PM

the fuck is a meme arrow (n/t)

RobDarken 163 September 11, 2012 08:35PM

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Stevers 193 September 11, 2012 08:52PM

He is hip to the interweb. (n/t)

Artificial 163 September 11, 2012 08:50PM

The fuck is an interweb? (n/t)

Frosty 160 September 12, 2012 08:16AM

It was making fun of how stupid the complaints against DB are

tesline 282 September 11, 2012 04:18PM

Yeah, because the rager has to put up with times of extreme vulnerability and downtime, wand durations, servitor durations, being a goodie, and numerous enemies for equal power. Oh wait. (n/t)

Artificial 182 September 11, 2012 04:38PM

rager and conjurer have a whole lot in common

Quas 236 September 12, 2012 03:49AM

Ragers can have everyone of those except they have extreme vulns at all times.

tesline 233 September 11, 2012 05:04PM

And in exchange, they get perma aura+shield, deathblow, and inherent haste/malediction immunity.

vortexmagus 222 September 11, 2012 10:08PM

And skilled people walk into three ragers and kill them all.

zannon 219 September 12, 2012 03:54AM

I disagree.

vortexmagus 299 September 12, 2012 07:56AM

You know, I "thought" you might be Vallinane :) Was good times. First time since Morior and Dhaezym we were on the same team I think. NT

Sam 201 September 12, 2012 04:01PM

Skill has everything to do with it.

zannon 246 September 12, 2012 09:26AM

I will say this. Woldrun repeatedly. REPEATEDLY. Made me his red-headed stepchild.

Sam 219 September 12, 2012 05:33PM

As Seyriannia

crafteddeception 251 September 12, 2012 08:11AM

Yikes

NbM(VIP) 238 September 12, 2012 09:24AM

She was stern Mother and a cold hand to her enemies.

crafteddeception 201 September 12, 2012 09:29AM

Made me think of this

Artificial 218 September 12, 2012 09:49AM

Eh?

NbM(VIP) 212 September 12, 2012 09:36AM

Pretty sure you were playing Ilmdrin then. May be wrong about the times. NT

Sam 165 September 12, 2012 04:03PM

its exceedingly rare to kill entire groups as a villager (they tend to scatter after the first falls)

Quas 229 September 12, 2012 03:51AM

But the same is true for any other skilled player who's not a rager... (n/t)

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid 193 September 12, 2012 01:05AM

Being a villager could be rough if they ever were without the head.

Quixotic 254 September 11, 2012 04:51PM

This is the problem.

trewyn 191 September 12, 2012 09:02PM

Problem is the player base is too small to hold it.

Kez 263 September 11, 2012 05:27PM

Clahier's a chick? (n/t)

wrathpuppet 187 September 11, 2012 03:02PM



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