And trip was the issue there.

Death_Claw

July 30, 2013 05:11AM

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I've gotten into probably hundreds of fights as or against a shield spec and I can tell you the number of times shield jab has caused me to fail to wimpy out (0) or gotten me a kill (0). Call lightning is more lethal than shield jab.

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Zamos nukes Derzz, clones eq.	LogFiend	1505	July 26, 2013 05:20AM
Ridiculous damage for a 1 round lag commune. (n/t)	Aussie1313	454	July 26, 2013 02:48PM
W store bought and class preps, I'll put money on the orc to win 3 out of 5.....	Zruulg	486	July 28, 2013 03:07PM
FYI: Derzz has no saves vs spell and like 10 Int and 10 Wis in this log. He ain't saving against anything at all. (n/t)	sevriis	435	July 27, 2013 05:27AM
It is way to much damage for a one round commune. He didnt save? Who the fuck cares. It's a rediculous commune that still hasn't been changed so the noobs love it. (n/t)	funnyone	463	July 27, 2013 09:38AM
It's not a win button though. Seems like a lot of people are starting to think that's what it is.	Frosty	467	July 27, 2013 12:52PM
It's more then that. It's the complete package a shield ded paladin is. I don't see how fun that is with a build that needs to be tinkered with. (n/t)	funnyone	445	July 27, 2013 03:17PM
Yeah I hate how they can maladict you to hell then permalag you (n/t)	valkenar	428	July 28, 2013 02:33AM
Yes, the counter argument is this. Why would they care about that when doing that much damage. Same crap with Jebaral, and I know that one prepares to fight, and that spam just destroys him. Good counter though. (n/t)	funnyone	434	July 28, 2013 03:44AM
You can leave at any point while fighting a paladin.	Death_Claw	461	July 28, 2013 04:29PM
No longer true	daurwyn(VIP)	493	July 28, 2013 10:49PM
You always could...for a staggering one round. n/t	Death_Claw	416	July 29, 2013 05:47AM
My last ap lost a medium weapon to	daurwyn(VIP)	453	July 29, 2013 12:43PM
And trip was the issue there.	Death_Claw	437	July 30, 2013 05:11AM
Trip and shield bash were both required	daurwyn(VIP)	422	August 01, 2013 03:09AM
If he was shieldbashing, he wasn't wrathing. Those three attacks per round sure are OP (n/t)	Matrik	415	August 01, 2013 06:16AM
Shield cleave.	Scrimbul	462	July 28, 2013 06:05AM
You called them the complete package. They're not. (n/t)	valkenar	426	July 28, 2013 04:23AM
Try playing one.	Death_Claw	484	July 27, 2013 06:10PM
This. This. This. (n/t)	Frosty	439	July 28, 2013 07:44AM
I take it you've never saved against wrath, because the difference is night and day when you do.	sevriis	480	July 27, 2013 10:07AM
It is deadly. Shields doing that much damage and co wra every round is BS damage save or not. Protection, stone, desen will still go great damage with everything else a shield paladin does. Is bash spec takes more skill (n/t)	funnyone	437	July 27, 2013 03:16PM
Flee is OP. Do what everyone suggests, try one. They the potential for burst damage but no lagging. Harded to seal kills than these logs look (n/t)	kanye	444	July 28, 2013 12:29PM
Why don't you play a paladin? (n/t)	Murphy	422	July 27, 2013 05:51PM
Blob? Is that you? (n/t)	Frosty	465	July 26, 2013 03:06PM
Pretty dick move to start killing someone after you know a reboot is coming. (n/t)	bell	438	July 26, 2013 12:58PM
Yeah, but how would he clone eq otherwise? :) (n/t)	Murphy	419	July 28, 2013 04:35PM
Agreed. n/t	Death_Claw	419	July 27, 2013 11:27AM
+1 (n/t)	butterfly	424	July 27, 2013 06:55AM
He needs to get those paladin edges somehow (n/t)	Elystan	437	July 27, 2013 01:40AM
Concur. (n/t)	Zruulg	436	July 26, 2013 03:57PM
Seemed to work out okay for him. (n/t)	legobelt	411	July 26, 2013 12:59PM
You stole my workaholics comment ;) (n/t)	Frosty	443	July 26, 2013 08:15AM
I'm half wondering	daurwyn(VIP)	610	July 26, 2013 07:10AM
Those DEVAS shieldjabs are nasty. Zamos probably has the +offensive communes virtue, right? Orcs aren't vuln wrath (n/t)	Dalbrin	492	July 26, 2013 12:32PM
With edges available it is fact.	Perpetual_Noob	651	July 26, 2013 07:27AM
they dont (n/t)	Quas	436	July 26, 2013 07:48AM
They don't what? Your response makes no sense to anything he posted. Please elaborate (n/t)	kanye	424	July 26, 2013 11:31AM
Out damage avengers (n/t)	Quas	414	July 26, 2013 04:21PM
Really?	Dalbrin	523	July 26, 2013 05:44PM
I guess your mileage out did mine then.	Perpetual_Noob	493	July 26, 2013 04:29PM
So speaking strictly raw damage	Quas	532	July 26, 2013 06:42PM
Shield desiccant gets one unblockable attack on everyone each round	daurwyn(VIP)	444	July 29, 2013 03:18AM
But they're so dry. (n/t)	wrathpuppet	447	July 29, 2013 03:36AM
LAUGH Daur got awtokourektyd! (n/t)	The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP)	426	July 30, 2013 08:15AM
One thing I've always been curious about	Dalbrin	558	July 26, 2013 07:40PM
To be really tanky they need temperance virtue.	Death_Claw	468	July 27, 2013 11:30AM
Avengers get a parry boost when using a 2 hander	Quas	489	July 27, 2013 03:31AM
Avoid is more than dodge .....	Welverin	523	July 27, 2013 04:07AM
Question then-	The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP)	435	July 30, 2013 08:17AM
no. ravger avoid is poor man's gentle walk (n/t)	Matrik	410	July 30, 2013 08:41AM
What kind of guard lets you flee past him? Meh. (n/t)	smashtro	429	July 26, 2013 06:02AM
Cowardly, level 25ish orc guards? (n/t)	sevriis	437	July 26, 2013 06:05AM
I'm talking more OOC mechanics than anything. Why doesn't it work like a guild guard?	smashtro	469	July 26, 2013 07:48AM
I think it is cause they can LITERALLY hide there. (n/t)	tesline	426	July 26, 2013 08:02AM
Orcs have the hide skill specifically to hide in GSV.	sevriis	491	July 26, 2013 07:55AM
Yeah, I didn't mean hide like thieves do, just seeking cover behind a meat shield.	smashtro	459	July 26, 2013 08:55AM
... Orcs have it easy to be honest. You can go find a cave on any continent and hide after a certain level.	sevriis	490	July 26, 2013 10:21AM
If I remember right there is another two sets of guards you can hide behind which ae much stronger. (n/t)	tesline	419	July 26, 2013 09:14AM
I don't know if they are "much" stronger...	Perpetual_Noob	430	July 27, 2013 02:03AM
Can't you summon from behind them? (n/t)	Murphy	424	July 27, 2013 04:26AM
If you can see hidden. Sure. But why not be friends with that duergar AP/Shaman as an orc? (n/t)	sevriis	423	July 27, 2013 04:45AM
Actually, I'm not even sure that detect hidden lets you see them there. (n/t)	Murphy	408	July 27, 2013 05:59AM
They can hide in their guild/town. (n/t)	legobelt	428	July 26, 2013 07:52AM

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