Re: probably

December 10, 2013 04:10AM
Would you consider black economic empowerment to be an example of institutional racism? And in that situation would the 5 million or so Afrikaners qualify as a significant racial minority?

I agree there is not a policy but one cannot ignore the racial motivations or the brutality behind the murders simply because it also happened to various African tribes. Furthermore a lot of whites in SA believe Mandela was the only thing stopping more radical (and racist elements) in the ANC from further violence. Many have lived in fear of an urban legend called operation uhuru (http://mobile.wnd.com/2004/02/23169/). The same would likely argue that SA is not better off racially or economically since the fall of apartheid. I can't say as I've never been to (let alone lived in) SA. Have you?

I also agree the ANC is not overtly communist. With that being said do you not believe Mandela was a communist? It's my understanding that even the communist party in SA admits it now.



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I think Nelson Mandela would have been a great Acolyte of the Golden Sun.

DurNominator(VIP) 460 December 08, 2013 12:42PM

TIL that a government ignoring organized murder commited against whites is cool because all white people are devils. (n/t)

Dalbrin 233 December 10, 2013 09:57AM

TIL you have no real idea of what Nelson Mandela actually accomplished. (n/t)

sevriis 221 December 10, 2013 02:25PM

Not talking about Mandela.

Dalbrin 282 December 10, 2013 10:51PM

HAHAH!! Yea, I'd like to see acolytes of the golden sun go around necklacing people - dude was a terrorist. (n/t)

Nurok 240 December 10, 2013 04:24AM

Would that cabal power have an immolate affect? Blindness? Both? (n/t)

Rhyaldrin 263 December 10, 2013 04:35AM

Paralysis+immolation

Nurok 250 December 10, 2013 06:29AM

real world politics is less black and white (ha)

morocco 251 December 09, 2013 12:14PM

hrm, thing is though....

Mjothvitnir 443 December 08, 2013 03:40PM

Mandela was a militant anti-apartheid leader.

vortexmagus 261 December 10, 2013 09:43AM

the Truth and Reconciliation Commission makes me think Mandela himself wasn't especially violent

morocco 272 December 09, 2013 01:13PM

Yes. What is celebrated about Mandela isn't that he was a totally non-violent leader.

sevriis 268 December 10, 2013 02:33PM

I agree. He got the nobel peace prize because he was able to work with the apartheid government to create peace, despite atrocity on both sides. Not because he was a pacifist. (n/t)

vortexmagus 228 December 10, 2013 09:22PM

Thing about being a leader

starbright 378 December 08, 2013 07:04PM

It doesn't count when it's white people because it's impossible for blacks to be racist because they don't control the power structure.

Rhyaldrin 286 December 10, 2013 01:43AM

um, you didn't remember that lesson either. I hope you got some milage out of recess.

morocco 309 December 10, 2013 02:26AM

Genocide is probably a strong word to use.

Rhyaldrin 306 December 10, 2013 02:52AM

probably

morocco 281 December 10, 2013 03:48AM

Re: probably

Rhyaldrin 262 December 10, 2013 04:10AM

Empowering disenfranchised minorities instead of the wealthiest, most prosperous majority? Are you telling me that's racism?

vortexmagus 334 December 10, 2013 08:46AM

It's not so simple

starbright 284 December 10, 2013 04:46PM

Re: It's not so simple

vortexmagus 257 December 10, 2013 09:19PM

like god, talking about racism is ultimately useless unless we define the terms

morocco 320 December 10, 2013 05:18AM

HAHA this made me laugh.

Wendigotorn 288 December 10, 2013 02:29AM

some of the smartest people i've ever met came from this community, but, yeah (n/t)

morocco 242 December 10, 2013 04:00AM

He was retarded. (n/t)

tesline 223 December 10, 2013 01:59AM

Re: Thing about being a leader

Mjothvitnir 368 December 08, 2013 08:20PM

And it was anyone that opposed their views,

Guy 315 December 09, 2013 07:15AM



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