You are so good at playing worthless griefing characters

NbM(VIP)

December 29, 2016 03:59AM

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And acting like your shit doesn't stink.

You shouldn't claim characters like that.

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Nazarates done.	Rhyaldrin	549	December 26, 2016 03:33AM
you acknowledge the OP build yet were very eager to gank or 2v1 every chance possible. how come? nt	The Forsaken(VIP)	329	December 28, 2016 09:24AM
Because Rhyaldrin characters historically don't take chances	NbM(VIP)	373	December 28, 2016 02:55PM
This game gives you no incentive to take chances. Anyone with low PK losses isn't taking chances.	Death_Claw	271	February 01, 2017 09:53AM
Woldrun was twist - over 100PK deaths and good PK win numbers - to say he didn't take risks is a stretch ;)	Nurok	239	February 01, 2017 10:19AM
Yeah well if you die 100 times then you're not who I'm referring to :).	Death_Claw	279	February 01, 2017 10:25AM
The art is minimizing the risk while making it look like you're risking a lot. That's why I love feign weakness so much. (n/t)	Murphy	145	February 01, 2017 04:33PM
He did take risks...but assassins who know their shit and have High Empire powers are fucking gross and therefore you can make mistakes and still kill people or escape. NT	Sam	228	February 01, 2017 03:02PM
Nep doesn't play any more :P (n/t)	Nurok	223	February 01, 2017 10:25AM
Coming from the player of Jeede... (n/t)	Murphy	295	December 28, 2016 04:14PM
Triggered	NbM(VIP)	436	December 28, 2016 04:57PM
You're so full of shit.	Rhyaldrin	393	December 28, 2016 09:09PM
Not that I have an problem with your char	daurwyn(VIP)	371	December 28, 2016 11:41PM
My point was it's very easy to break 2.0+ in Empire. (n/t)	Rhyaldrin	320	December 28, 2016 11:57PM
Which is why it's always less impressive to do well with Empire than it is with Fort.	Death_Claw	244	February 01, 2017 09:37AM
Its not only easy but its more "likely" because of raids, reraids and other	dhargor	336	December 29, 2016 12:14AM
I don't disagree re empire boosting gankometer (n/t)	daurwyn(VIP)	238	December 29, 2016 02:44AM
I don't either but everyone seems to have a standard.	Rhyaldrin	320	December 29, 2016 12:16AM
Gankometers are overrated. (n/t)	Murphy	267	December 29, 2016 12:05AM
I tend to agree but it's what everyone cites.	Rhyaldrin	321	December 29, 2016 12:13AM
I said it but I'll repeat again, cf playerbase ALWAYS complain about my chars and find	dhargor	364	December 29, 2016 12:42AM
You really prove this point better than anyone.	Rhyaldrin	295	December 29, 2016 01:00AM
This is where I disagree	daurwyn(VIP)	313	December 29, 2016 02:49AM
Bollocks	Kstatida	290	December 29, 2016 06:39AM
It does matter a lot.	Death_Claw	228	February 01, 2017 09:41AM
But he still got you once	Kstatida	249	February 02, 2017 03:28AM
Awww, that's really cute. (n/t)	Frosty	250	December 29, 2016 01:48PM
Frags don't smell. NT	Sam	239	December 29, 2016 01:34PM
Its not exactly a fair comparison, though.	bloodmoon	346	December 29, 2016 01:10PM
WHO THE FUCK CARES? (n/t)	Kstatida	237	December 29, 2016 07:09PM
Everyone except you, obviously.	Murphy	292	December 29, 2016 07:51PM
That's envy speaking	Kstatida	237	December 29, 2016 09:46PM
Things can't "matter" or "not matter". They can matter for someone.	Murphy	311	December 29, 2016 10:05PM
Envy is your job?	Kstatida	256	December 29, 2016 10:06PM
You envy that person. I don't. Because again...	Death_Claw	240	February 01, 2017 10:15AM
In better understandable terms for you Boris	Murphy	271	December 29, 2016 10:10PM
If you needed it, I'd have to charge you	Kstatida	312	December 29, 2016 10:20PM
You have that flipped around. (n/t)	Frosty	302	December 29, 2016 08:59PM
I was going to make a post about it	dhargor	339	December 29, 2016 03:06AM
i'd much prefer something akin to AP weapon/charges. nt	The Forsaken(VIP)	235	December 29, 2016 10:06AM
Could be even more restrictive	daurwyn(VIP)	249	January 04, 2017 02:58AM
I'm not gonna play then	Kstatida	261	December 29, 2016 06:33AM
Is it bad that I m not surprised by this comment? (n/t)	Bryntor	219	December 29, 2016 09:12AM
I meant also that it is 100% alright to gank.	Murphy	311	December 29, 2016 12:19AM
Right, mister "I prefer assassination because it obviously ticks you off". (n/t)	Murphy	316	December 28, 2016 05:00PM
I generally just used assassinate against people who would run right away, people who bitched out of every fight didn't get a chance to fight. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	285	December 28, 2016 05:01PM
Sounds like you're too conservative to me.	Rhyaldrin	271	December 28, 2016 09:24PM
Hah!	NbM(VIP)	221	December 29, 2016 03:58AM
Who was his perma? (n/t)	Murphy	252	December 29, 2016 04:08AM
Bah, perma-lag, good catch. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	222	December 29, 2016 04:10AM
So I attacked everyone while taking no risks. Got it.	Rhyaldrin	259	December 29, 2016 04:04AM
Meh	NbM(VIP)	253	December 29, 2016 04:10AM
That's fair.	Rhyaldrin	257	December 29, 2016 04:14AM
Cabal'd mutes not being able to request item location is lame. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	228	December 29, 2016 04:16AM
Is it actually the case?	daurwyn(VIP)	235	January 04, 2017 03:01AM
You can totally make mercs (and some pets) talk. It's how I had 85% of my fun with Jindicho. NT	Sam	235	January 04, 2017 03:27AM
Not if you're a mute; you can't order. (n/t)	Murphy	241	January 04, 2017 04:59AM
Can a mute bard still use mimic?	zannon	242	January 04, 2017 05:59AM
Bards and mages cannot take that flaw.	Murphy	298	January 04, 2017 06:26AM
Wasn't my impression at all.	Murphy	370	December 28, 2016 05:07PM
I saw nothing but class from Jeede over multiple chars.	Frosty	312	December 28, 2016 07:35PM
My first interaction with Jeede was him saying I stole from him because he assassinated my non-existent alt character. n/t	jalim	258	December 29, 2016 01:43AM
You are so good at playing worthless griefing characters	NbM(VIP)	285	December 29, 2016 03:59AM
I usually don't claim anything.	jalim	367	December 29, 2016 04:15AM
I laughed and laughed when people thought Agilus was Warren.	Sam	273	December 29, 2016 09:57AM
wow, i didn't know you were that much a POS. nt	The Forsaken(VIP)	223	December 29, 2016 09:21AM
I like the "had been drinking" mention. :) That makes everything okay, right? (n/t)	Frosty	295	December 29, 2016 09:37AM
Makes interacting with you and yours a lot funner, that's for sure. n/t	jalim	244	December 29, 2016 09:42AM
"more fun" - goddamn, Iunna is having fits reading this :P (n/t)	Nurok	259	December 29, 2016 10:13AM
LOL, who are you? Beront 2.0? Agilus was so bad lots of people thought it was Warren.	Frosty	297	December 29, 2016 09:46AM
Stealing in CF is super fun and everyone should roll a thief. n/t	jalim	313	December 29, 2016 09:36AM
I've said this before and will repeat here	Kstatida	269	December 29, 2016 08:13AM
This entire conversation only reiterates to me why I rolled in the first place.	jalim	313	December 29, 2016 09:15AM
This just isn't true.	Murphy	302	December 29, 2016 03:56PM
Jalim not being honest?	Kstatida	267	December 29, 2016 07:14PM
Wasn't Aerf a svirf ranger I was friends with? n/t	jalim	334	December 29, 2016 04:15PM
Unless you mean he was friends with some other character of yours -- we never exchanged a word.	Murphy	307	December 29, 2016 04:25PM
All of this does not change the fact that Agilus was a shit character who'd ruined a gaming experience for many people	Kstatida	321	December 29, 2016 10:08AM
And you'd totally have fun killing me.	jalim	268	December 29, 2016 10:35AM
I'd have equal fun killing you with a character I actually enjoy playing	Kstatida	304	December 29, 2016 07:11PM
Yeah, cause that's your intent. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	243	December 29, 2016 10:39AM
He's the villain CF needs	zannon	278	December 29, 2016 11:00AM
Is that a copypasta from somewhere? (n/t)	Murphy	285	December 29, 2016 03:49PM
He doesn't play CF	Kstatida	257	December 29, 2016 07:13PM
Capacity, Boris. Mental capacity. (n/t)	Murphy	214	December 29, 2016 07:31PM
Capability has nothing to do with capacity	Kstatida	232	December 29, 2016 07:50PM
If you meant his skill, then yes.	Murphy	290	December 29, 2016 07:54PM
Jesus Christ you guys have turned this thread into an even bigger dumpster fire than I anticipated. (n/t)	Rhyaldrin	248	December 29, 2016 08:00PM
It is the biggest thread in recent CF history, with like 5 subthreads lol. NT	Sam	214	December 29, 2016 10:13PM
There is still time to send us New Year presents	Kstatida	231	December 29, 2016 09:49PM
Re: There is still time to send us New Year presents	Frosty	228	December 29, 2016 09:55PM
No need for despair, you'll still make it to Hamley's (n/t)	Kstatida	296	December 29, 2016 10:05PM
I don't speak dutch. (n/t)	Frosty	248	December 29, 2016 10:34PM
Is it a prerequisite for something important in U.S.?	Kstatida	224	December 29, 2016 11:00PM
At a guess, maybe it has to do with smoking pot. (n/t)	Murphy	247	December 30, 2016 05:27AM
This is what happens, Boris, when you try to fuck a stranger in the ass.	Frosty	246	December 30, 2016 08:57AM
I'll keep this useful info in mind	Kstatida	238	December 30, 2016 09:03AM
Shut the fuck up, Boris. (n/t)	bloodmoon	242	December 31, 2016 08:31AM
And a Happy New Year! (n/t)	Kstatida	229	December 31, 2016 10:40AM
Re: Is it a prerequisite for something important in U.S.?	Frosty	306	December 29, 2016 11:16PM
Haha	Kstatida	258	December 29, 2016 11:22PM
Have you thought of getting it bronzed? ;) (n/t)	Frosty	236	December 29, 2016 08:57PM
Don't grow too proud. (n/t)	Murphy	225	December 29, 2016 08:01PM
Meh, that's sort of BS.	zannon	302	December 29, 2016 09:53AM
I wouldn't have thought you were Agilus. I didn't understand why you did what you did in your sole interaction with me.	Nurok	270	December 29, 2016 09:48AM
Sure.	jalim	240	December 29, 2016 10:32AM
Fair enough.	Nurok	266	December 29, 2016 10:34AM
Just don't delete after you steal from me plz :)	Sam	292	December 29, 2016 09:45AM
Turd (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	237	December 29, 2016 09:19AM
Re: I usually don't claim anything.	NbM(VIP)	260	December 29, 2016 04:18AM
You can not like whatever you want.	jalim	218	December 29, 2016 04:24AM
Not that I like to side with NbM here, but I remember us having a "discussion".	Murphy	276	December 29, 2016 04:34AM
You were Provost raking me as lion and it hurt my butt.	jalim	341	December 29, 2016 04:43AM
grep -r "Agilus tells you" /home/murphy/.tintin/logs	Murphy	287	December 29, 2016 05:07AM
This is fantastic lol. Fucking Jalims. NT	Sam	229	December 29, 2016 09:47AM
Haha	jalim	340	December 29, 2016 05:14AM
Until just now I didn't know you played Agilus	NbM(VIP)	282	December 29, 2016 04:31AM
I have to thank Jalim for Agilus actually.	zannon	277	December 29, 2016 04:52AM
Why are you under the impression they couldn't get to their corpses?	jalim	262	December 29, 2016 06:04AM
Presumption of an area explore	zannon	248	December 29, 2016 08:03AM
Shinies.	jalim	273	December 29, 2016 05:02AM
Me play an invoker? Really?	zannon	264	December 29, 2016 05:20AM
Oh good.	jalim	334	December 29, 2016 06:00AM
Agilus annoyed my character as well	zannon	253	December 29, 2016 07:53AM
You realize we have mutual friends right? n/t	jalim	281	December 29, 2016 04:41AM
He never did claim Agilus. I guess it's his form of trolling. (n/t)	Murphy	246	December 29, 2016 04:13AM
You seem to have that effect on people. (n/t)	Frosty	359	December 29, 2016 02:16AM
Yeah it wasn't just me that caught him in those tizzies. n/t	jalim	266	December 29, 2016 02:23AM
Overall, yes, I agree they're good for the game.	Murphy	329	December 28, 2016 07:46PM
Its really hard to hate your chars because they don't impact the Cf, just store and overuse preps	dhargor	296	December 28, 2016 07:57PM
Actually that's a good reason to hate them.	Murphy	328	December 28, 2016 08:10PM
Its so easy to trigger you :) relax :)	dhargor	346	December 28, 2016 09:00PM
Nice spectacle, bro. You hurt my feelings. (n/t)	Murphy	275	December 28, 2016 09:12PM
#rekt (n/t)	Frosty	296	December 28, 2016 09:04PM
I had a lot of fights go down to the wire with a number of his characters	Quas	297	December 28, 2016 03:43PM
Lol what?	Rhyaldrin	331	December 28, 2016 03:25PM
Well	TheShamanman	358	December 28, 2016 04:49PM
Once upon a time I too was a 10/90 player	Quas	343	December 28, 2016 05:59PM
It's more complex than 75/25 or 60/40.	Murphy	337	December 28, 2016 04:57PM
mine is usually 5/20/75 LOL (n/t)	Bryntor	251	December 29, 2016 08:58AM
Yes, exactly this!	starbright	337	December 29, 2016 02:14AM
It's risk reward	daurwyn(VIP)	300	December 29, 2016 02:51AM
Mostly only applies to A-P. Unless your opponent has strange bracers, or mask of anazu, or something else like that. (n/t)	Murphy	208	December 29, 2016 03:23AM
Agreed	daurwyn(VIP)	217	December 29, 2016 03:35AM
Very rarely the case for me, except in PvE. (n/t)	Murphy	235	December 29, 2016 03:38AM
Hence people dying just at the verge of ranking up :) (n/t)	daurwyn(VIP)	223	December 29, 2016 03:40AM
I don't avoid low percentage fights.	Rhyaldrin	251	December 29, 2016 02:42AM
I love it how you state the only intelligent thing in the whole of this conversation and it straight up gets ignored	Kstatida	338	December 28, 2016 09:48PM
Re: I love it how you state the only intelligent thing in the whole of this conversation and it straight up gets ignored	TheShamanman	296	December 28, 2016 10:50PM
If I wanted to spend my time waiting for the perfect moment I would play an assassinate monkey.	Murphy	295	December 28, 2016 11:23PM
Rhyaldrin - perhaps, Murphy - hell no	Kstatida	287	December 28, 2016 10:59PM
Also able to force others to gtfo :)	Murphy	291	December 28, 2016 11:36PM
I would strongly disagree that you and Rhyaldrin would take a fight that had an equal chance of killing or death. Again. Not saying that's a bad thing, but you're not being honest. (n/t)	TheShamanman	283	December 28, 2016 05:12PM
Thing is	daurwyn(VIP)	298	December 28, 2016 11:47PM
It's exactly what I said. I wouldn't take a 50/50.	Murphy	298	December 28, 2016 05:24PM
Because that's the point of the game.	Rhyaldrin	320	December 28, 2016 02:24PM
Why would he not?	Kstatida	328	December 28, 2016 09:55AM
FOMO (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	261	December 28, 2016 09:33AM
Wow. No idea you had so many hours. 491! And still a stock title??	TJHuron	374	December 26, 2016 03:40PM
I just didn't have the time to do it.	Rhyaldrin	341	December 26, 2016 09:12PM
You did the Lord's work. Just wish it wasn't on me all the time :) NT	Sam	273	December 26, 2016 10:45AM
You were ruthless, cold blooded. GLWYN (n/t)	Frosty	282	December 26, 2016 07:01AM
Really? I thought he was a softie.	Murphy	346	December 26, 2016 09:15PM
This	Kstatida	337	December 26, 2016 09:22PM
I address this on my officials post.	Rhyaldrin	313	December 26, 2016 09:27PM
The only reason that was a nice guy move...	MiyagiYojimbo	319	December 27, 2016 09:04AM
No, I was his enemy and he was still a softie.	Murphy	318	December 27, 2016 11:01AM
Nice post on officials	starbright	412	December 26, 2016 06:04AM
That was a rough one for me.	Rhyaldrin	386	December 26, 2016 06:07AM
I can't post on official so I'll place it here.	dhargor	417	December 26, 2016 06:06AM
Just shut the fuck up. Most people would be thankful. (n/t)	Frosty	298	December 26, 2016 07:03AM
I'm sorry for killing you in PK mud n/t	dhargor	245	December 26, 2016 07:08AM
You have that backwards, bitch.	Frosty	352	December 26, 2016 07:11AM
Once you play something semi competent	dhargor	327	December 26, 2016 07:21AM
Once you learn how to role play you can have your voice in a role play mandatory mud like CF (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	326	December 26, 2016 07:57AM
He actually plays a proper villain better than 95% of CF :) Just saying. NT	Sam	294	December 26, 2016 11:04AM
The majority of the time that's true.	Frosty	336	December 26, 2016 11:13AM
RP is overrated	Kstatida	342	December 26, 2016 08:20AM
I think you mean redundant.	Frosty	326	December 26, 2016 11:08AM
Says the guy who will never beat my record.	Frosty	347	December 26, 2016 07:27AM
You just failed to troll :( I expected something better from you :( n/t	dhargor	274	December 26, 2016 07:41AM
Wrong again. I'm not trolling. I'm responding to a bitchy bitch.	Frosty	330	December 26, 2016 07:44AM
I don't need to know who you play. I am Kostyan, Mhaldarn, Kjorh - you are nobody :) n/t	dhargor	307	December 26, 2016 07:54AM
He is Umiron	Kstatida	357	December 26, 2016 08:11AM
He is guzgreg and other shitty chars I don't why he claims himself competent. He is like that guy, jerry n/t	dhargor	304	December 27, 2016 03:14AM
You are the one trying to brag about you and your characters. What next? You going to tell us how many commander kills you have?	Frosty	296	December 27, 2016 08:09AM
First - don't tell "us" - speak for yourself. Second - when you talk about yourself, I see only your failed pk chars and your fantasies	dhargor	305	December 27, 2016 08:40AM
You've gone full Jerrokrar. That's like going full retard.	Frosty	329	December 27, 2016 08:54AM
Full retard mode is pro. But it's close. (n/t)	Quas	315	December 27, 2016 10:29AM
Calm down, my friend, I know, truth hurts and you are lying again but its fine	dhargor	315	December 27, 2016 08:58AM
Not my char, moron. Swing and a miss, Berry. You have no clue what you're talking about.	Frosty	282	December 27, 2016 09:11AM
Berrokray. (n/t)	Murphy	269	December 28, 2016 05:02PM
Ah, so much anger but relax, gurzgred, you are not perfect, nobody is ever perfect!	dhargor	272	December 27, 2016 09:15AM
I almost feel bad for telling you to stop cause you come off retarded and likely can't control it. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	288	December 27, 2016 12:40PM
Man, everytime I read one of your posts I feel less intelligent for it..	Telufial	318	December 27, 2016 10:54AM
Alcohol is a helluva drug, even in beer form. (n/t)	Murphy	288	December 27, 2016 10:59AM
I didn't even start to drink, but trust me, this friday I'll show you my true Bertrolton form	dhargor	300	December 27, 2016 11:07AM
If you are planning on acting out to be a dick and get a ban I'll just park your ass in shitposting (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	269	December 27, 2016 12:48PM
You're boring and your trolling is unrefined. (n/t)	Murphy	296	December 27, 2016 11:39AM
There're only two persons with refined trolling around here	Kstatida	343	December 27, 2016 12:37PM
Yeah but confusing Frosty with Shamanman?	Murphy	285	December 27, 2016 05:47PM
Frosty is quality, I'll leave it at that. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	291	December 27, 2016 06:02PM
Who cares?	Kstatida	312	December 27, 2016 08:56PM
Thank you for doing my work for me.	Frosty	307	December 27, 2016 09:05PM
Confirmed, Frosty played Zorzsaul. (n/t)	bloodmoon	310	December 27, 2016 07:26PM
He was an Emperor. Not a lich though. NT	Sam	269	December 27, 2016 08:44PM
No he wasn't	Kstatida	290	December 27, 2016 09:00PM
Compressed together. And it's a shovel, a carrot, and pot.	Frosty	289	December 27, 2016 09:08PM
What do you need that shovel for?	Kstatida	292	December 27, 2016 09:55PM
Hail to the king, baby. (n/t)	Frosty	274	December 28, 2016 04:57AM
Good point. NT	Sam	273	December 27, 2016 09:02PM
CHEATER!	Sam	257	December 27, 2016 06:44PM
Seconded. +1 (n/t)	Telufial	289	December 27, 2016 12:12PM
Seconded. (n/t)	Telufial	278	December 27, 2016 12:11PM
Gurzgred was played by Shamanman	zannon	276	December 27, 2016 09:39AM
DON'T INTEFERENT US! HE WAS GUZGREG!	dhargor	312	December 27, 2016 09:41AM
Apologies.	zannon	268	December 27, 2016 09:47AM
I'm a snowman. You are TLB.	Frosty	329	December 26, 2016 07:56AM
Nerfing trance makes assassins prep-intensive	Kstatida	353	December 26, 2016 06:09AM
No. He can assassinate his "prey" then. It's a lot less difficult than you are making it out to be. NT	Sam	239	December 26, 2016 01:10PM
Feel free to remind me of your successful assassinate monkey	Kstatida	308	December 26, 2016 10:15PM
I'm played a total of 1 assassin ever, and rocked a 11-2 ratio :)	Sam	280	December 26, 2016 10:52PM
No	Kstatida	341	December 26, 2016 11:33PM
Personally	daurwyn(VIP)	261	December 29, 2016 03:39AM
You are wrong here	dhargor	233	December 29, 2016 03:42AM
Jalim got me that way in like 2013 with his buggy assassin (the one I think he said he got 80+ assassinates without an improvement on the %).	Sam	228	December 29, 2016 12:59PM
That is not fun for the person being stalked	starbright	229	December 29, 2016 06:10AM
PS Three former/current IMMs have mastered assassinate, btw. Also, Verathi just owned with one as well.	Sam	270	December 26, 2016 11:57PM
My thoughts were this:	Rhyaldrin	307	December 27, 2016 04:41AM
Re: My thoughts were this:	Kstatida	287	December 27, 2016 05:09AM
I was mostly playing around.	Rhyaldrin	338	December 27, 2016 05:11AM
I've had 84% assassinate as Zqoemoa as well, it doesn't mean shit	Kstatida	337	December 27, 2016 12:05AM
You're hilarious Boris. Sometimes I'm not sure we understand each other.	Sam	308	December 26, 2016 11:55PM
*Your (n/t)	Rhyaldrin	214	December 27, 2016 12:06AM
No I didn't, you think I did	Kstatida	243	December 26, 2016 11:55PM
Alright, one day I'll argue with you in Russian and you'll see what I mean.	Sam	243	December 27, 2016 12:48AM
I don't really agree	daurwyn(VIP)	313	December 26, 2016 09:32AM
I don't really follow	Kstatida	273	December 26, 2016 09:36AM
Re: I don't really follow	daurwyn(VIP)	302	December 26, 2016 01:04PM
This is true.	Rhyaldrin	357	December 26, 2016 06:11AM
It's actually better than STSF. You can't take edges to make STSF better :) NT	Sam	249	December 26, 2016 01:11PM
Someone hasn't explored all the edges. Muahahaha. n/t	jalim	292	December 26, 2016 01:19PM
That's another point and we go back to the initial design	Kstatida	284	December 26, 2016 06:21AM
Re: That's another point and we go back to the initial design	Ultec	306	December 27, 2016 03:49AM
Damn shame, see you in a fields. n/t	dhargor	284	December 26, 2016 03:56AM
I hate when notable characters delete	Kstatida	359	December 26, 2016 03:36AM
We owe Whiysdan for that. He forced it on me in the RC and I was little angry.	Rhyaldrin	345	December 26, 2016 03:40AM

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