Re: "Putin's Way" video. I am interested in your thoughts/reactions.

September 04, 2015 11:58AM
Ok, I've finally wasted 1.5 hours of my life watching this :)

1. Misinfo on Putin's Parlament majority blocking bombings prosecution. United Russia didn't have majority till 2004.
2. Misinfo on reason for 2nd Chechen war. It happened because Chechen militants invaded Dagestan and attacked the town of Botlich, not because of Volgodonsk bombings.
3. Misinfo on reason for 1st Chechen war. The federal forces were sent there two years before elections (after 3 years of local civil war) and the war was the major reason for Yeltsin's rating to drop down to 2%. You don't start electoral wars 2 years before elections.
4. Misinfo on reason for Trepashkin's jail sentence. He was sentenced for disclosure of state secret, not carrying some stupid gun (Russian laws only fine for carrying a gun).
5. Khodorkovskiy's speech on corruption is fun. The murderous fucker had Parlament majority on a payroll as of 2003.
6. 40B figure is laughable. Why would you need money if you have a largest country in the world with nuclear weapons at your disposal? Power > money, and only ppl with no power think otherwise. Watch House of Cards for details :)
7. Misinfo on 2011/2012 protests being put down by police. I personally attended 2 out of 4 massive actions, ridiculously, those were the only two that had violence involved, Manezhnaya on 2010 and so called May 6 march on 2012. Both times - no casualties. Bolotnaya and Sakharova (the only truly massive ones) had no violence involved.
8. Fabled Credit Suisse unequality report is bullshit, it estimates Russian national wealth equal to national wealth of Singapore. So "very neutral report" my ass :) For reasonable unequality index, refer to CIA Gini index report, where Russia is between UK and US.
9. Misinfo about mass media being under Kremlin control. I have already stated here that the most popular newspapers in Russia are published by News Corp and Financial Times. Which I find disturbing by the way, and I personally welcome the introcution of the law that prohibits mass media to be more than 20% owned by foreign investors (I suppose you have similar law in U.S. for a long time now). And we don't have any kind of media control body like Office of Communication in UK.
10. Funny talks on on "invaded Crimea", showing footage having no relevance to Crimea at the same time :)
11. MH17 - I didn't get it. Did the author imply that Russians shot it down? BS with no ground.

I have liked two lines however, first about "they don't want to be democrats", and second "he doesn't back down". First one is largely true, I could certainly say that between the state power and democracy, we certainly choose state power, sorry. And second - it's not "he doesn't back down" - it's "we don't back down", there's a largely popular Russian proverb stating "Russians don't surrender", and hearing words like "We need to show him we're for real or he doesn't take us seriously" - that's laughable incompetent shit :)
Subject Author Posted

"Putin's Way" video. I am interested in your thoughts/reactions.

Quixotic September 02, 2015 12:24PM

Re: "Putin's Way" video. I am interested in your thoughts/reactions.

Kstatida September 04, 2015 11:58AM

Reminds me of North Korean coverage. (n/t)

Batman September 03, 2015 06:58AM

Don't have time to watch it now but judging from the comments

Kstatida September 03, 2015 12:44AM

Re: Putin

PaulO September 03, 2015 04:16AM

Re: Putin

Kstatida September 03, 2015 07:13AM

What struck me was the accusation of such egregious corruption.

Quixotic September 03, 2015 03:46PM

On the bodies

Kstatida September 04, 2015 12:50AM

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/new-investigat ion-exposes-glam-life-of-vladimir-putins-bling#. xnreR3JX4

Saa September 09, 2015 02:24PM

Got photos of him glamourously fucking Kim Kardashjan or what?

Kstatida September 10, 2015 03:24AM

re 200 years of western Propaganda

Quixotic September 04, 2015 10:37AM

Umm, that's well documented actually

Kstatida September 04, 2015 12:19PM

That's plain stupid

Saa September 10, 2015 01:13AM

Mexico of course does, and Canada is US' satallite having no own external policy

Kstatida September 10, 2015 03:53AM

Let me guess, you think Russia's oppression of Napoleon was a good thing? (n/t)

MiyagiYojimbo September 04, 2015 07:55AM

Now THAT was funny. :) (n/t)

Frosty September 04, 2015 07:57AM

The piece did present verbal testimony.

Quixotic September 04, 2015 02:25AM

I asked to define corruption, you didn't comment on that :)

Kstatida September 04, 2015 03:59AM

I didn't notice your request for a definition of corruption.

Quixotic September 04, 2015 10:35AM

If that's your definition of corruption

Kstatida September 04, 2015 12:25PM

It's not the bartering I have a problem with.

PaulO September 03, 2015 10:34AM

When you choose between a bad deal and famine

Kstatida September 03, 2015 10:59AM

He chose more famine over less famine

PaulO September 03, 2015 07:30PM

You didn't get it

Kstatida September 04, 2015 12:35AM

So you're saying he didn't send $100mill of raw materials? (n/t)

PaulO September 04, 2015 04:06AM

You mistake $100M and raw materials worth $100M

Kstatida September 04, 2015 05:53AM

No I don't.

PaulO September 04, 2015 07:13AM

There is no such thing as "the only option"

Kstatida September 04, 2015 07:42AM

Same argument can be used to excuse any behavior.

Matrik September 04, 2015 08:24AM

Not really

Kstatida September 04, 2015 10:20AM

Re: Not really

PaulO September 04, 2015 01:13PM

You're assuming my thoughts, please don't

Kstatida September 04, 2015 01:49PM

If some food was delivered, it is slightly less egregious. (n/t)

PaulO September 05, 2015 11:30AM

However,

Matrik September 04, 2015 11:25AM

That was counter to the "he had better options" statement (n/t)

Kstatida September 04, 2015 12:21PM

I just used the same counter against your "statement" (n/t)

Matrik September 04, 2015 03:43PM

Well, you didn't :)

Kstatida September 05, 2015 02:24AM

You did.

Matrik September 05, 2015 07:18AM

Those are totally different arguments

Kstatida September 05, 2015 09:55AM

Exact same arguments.

Matrik September 05, 2015 12:40PM

Well, report and article are by no means comparable

Kstatida September 05, 2015 01:22PM

It's like you don't even read my responses

PaulO September 05, 2015 02:11PM

Well perhaps it's me being ESL, but you totally misunderstand my reasoning

Kstatida September 05, 2015 03:53PM

You miss the quote from the biography.

PaulO September 05, 2015 05:00PM

I don't miss it

Kstatida September 06, 2015 01:37AM

Re: I don't miss it

PaulO September 06, 2015 05:28AM

It's the failure rate that matters

Kstatida September 07, 2015 01:13AM

Closer

PaulO September 07, 2015 07:22AM

That is, as we Russians like to call it

Kstatida September 07, 2015 08:00AM

I think we need to start a fund for your catcher's mitt now too. (n/t)

Matrik September 05, 2015 01:44PM

I don't think I understood that (n/t)

Kstatida September 05, 2015 03:55PM

...yes it goes on and on my friends... (n/t)

Frosty September 04, 2015 03:55PM

oh in 90s after the fall of the USSR Russians were ok, and now we don't like them (n/t)

Batman September 03, 2015 07:17AM

Oh, so we're only ok to you when our country is in ruins? That's what you're getting at? Fuck you! (n/t)

Murphy September 03, 2015 07:23AM

Ok, you've passed Russian check (n/t)

Kstatida September 03, 2015 10:23AM

Bah, for the next few moments, consider me being mongol. You're my favorite qhcf forum handle, so how can I? :)

Kstatida September 03, 2015 07:20AM

Don't be sorry. That's a win win. (n/t)

Frosty September 03, 2015 07:41AM

That video reeked of propaganda, but don't get me wrong...

MiyagiYojimbo September 03, 2015 03:01AM

"Putin's Way" or as Boris calls it: "Pornography". (n/t)

Rhyaldrin September 02, 2015 12:47PM

Funny as it is, you're absolutely correct

Kstatida September 03, 2015 12:46AM



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