Nothing is black and white Vortex

January 16, 2017 02:33PM
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And semi-automatic rifles/shotguns would be very effective vs the military. If some hostile force took residence in DC - do you really believe the president is going to bomb DC in order to kill the insurgents (ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE??)

If I were a corrupt president running a corrupt government with a corrupt military, I sure would. Really remarkably strange to me that you can conceive of a government and military that's horrible enough to rebel against, but too scared to commit a few atrocities to get its way.

And you can't conceive of a government that is corrupt and a military that isn't? Any single one of the vast ways in which a few people with guns WOULD be helpful/useful? You can't conceive of a government that is corrupt enough, but not dumb enough to "glass us"?

Let us pretend for a moment that there is a defined 100 ways in which a government can be corrupt. Only 1 of these ways can be solved by citizens with guns. Do you think it is worth while to have the guns in this imagined scenario? I do.

Have you ever thought that perhaps a "corrupt government" might take the form of a rural police department? I can tell you answering the door with a shotgun does a world of good when Sheriff Pete the meth addict comes aknockin'

Have you ever heard of organized crime? Do you think organized crime is easier or harder to defend against if you, your family, and/or your neighborhood is equipped with their own death dealing machines?

Do you think the government is so powerful and all-knowing at this point that no one, no group of people can cause enough disruption to affect it?

Guns are a tool. A useful one.

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I gotta feeling that Trump is getting killed and there is going to be a coup taking over the country afterwards, using his death as an excuse to subjugate us all? Any thoughts.

Sam January 14, 2017 11:56AM

Sounds legit.

uerlante January 16, 2017 03:30AM

You do realize that a lot of people who hated Hillary think Trump is an epic-level dink, right? NT

Sam January 16, 2017 04:39AM

I do, but you do realize that everyone who did vote for him, which was a vote against progressivism own the most guns.

uerlante January 16, 2017 05:04AM

Um, the 2nd Amendment has always been a check against a Military-style coup of the government.

Sam January 16, 2017 05:12AM

I've always thought that was ridiculous.

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 09:37AM

Dude, you can have an RPG in Georgia (and people do). You need to get out more. NT

Sam January 16, 2017 11:51AM

I mean if you fill out enough forms and get a bunch of clearances you can own a fighter jet or an artillery platform

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 01:11PM

Sure - you just can't buy the rockets they fire - and good luck finding one with it included. (n/t)

Nurok January 16, 2017 11:53AM

True true. Still, there are ways :) NT

Sam January 16, 2017 01:28PM

Guerilla warfare says your wrong (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 16, 2017 10:07AM

Guerilla warfare only works when militaries aren't interested in committing atrocity or investing a lot of resources.

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 12:56PM

Damnit, Vortex. You can't troll as a liberal, because weak willed absurdity is too close to real liberal views.

MiyagiYojimbo January 16, 2017 11:45PM

Do you think the US government hasn't been committing atrocity in the middle east?

Matrik January 16, 2017 02:25PM

Urban warfare is a very different thing Vortex...

Nurok January 16, 2017 10:07AM

Re: Urban warfare is a very different thing Vortex...

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 12:58PM

Nothing is black and white Vortex

Matrik January 16, 2017 02:33PM

Re: Nothing is black and white Vortex

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 05:19PM

Re: Nothing is black and white Vortex

Matrik January 16, 2017 05:51PM

It's not that guns are a tool. It's the right we have to those guns.

Sam January 16, 2017 03:19PM

Oh believe me,

Matrik January 16, 2017 03:30PM

Yeah but what about when I buy a tactical nuke and set it off in Vortex's backyard for violating the NAP?

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 03:34PM

I wouldn't blame you. I hate when people wake me up during my nap. (n/t)

Matrik January 16, 2017 03:40PM

You have to remember...

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 11:32AM

I've always wondered what the world looks like in memeland

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 01:00PM

This one is relevant...

jalim January 16, 2017 01:19PM

I know you probably won't bother but I really want you to take a look at this writeup

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 01:33PM

It's amazing what the Democrats did to the Internet in the last 8 years (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 16, 2017 02:10PM

It's Obama's biggest failure, IMHO. That and how he went after whistleblowers. NT

Sam January 16, 2017 02:21PM

Bags of dicks lol. NT

Sam January 16, 2017 01:28PM

Re: I've always thought that was ridiculous.

Matrik January 16, 2017 09:56AM

Re: I've always thought that was ridiculous.

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 01:07PM

As I thought. You'd rather preserve your fantasy of safety.

Matrik January 16, 2017 02:21PM

Here, this is one of the best and most well thought out write ups I've seen on it.

Matrik January 16, 2017 02:40PM

You and I have veeeeery different definitions of well thought out.

vortexmagus January 16, 2017 05:43PM

Gonna call you out on this one

Dalbrin January 17, 2017 02:27PM

And his political opponents who decided to secede almost entirely on the decision to protect a societal structure/market based on slavery

vortexmagus January 18, 2017 07:08AM

Re: You and I have veeeeery different definitions of well thought out.

Matrik January 16, 2017 05:58PM

My point was a little different

vortexmagus January 17, 2017 05:45AM

Re: My point was a little different

Jib January 17, 2017 01:14PM

I don't see where he said that.

Matrik January 17, 2017 11:23AM

Marines are really only the branch that I noticed still had the "crazies" in most of the military folk I've met.

Sam January 17, 2017 12:47PM

I lived with a market be for a year. Odd fellow but not crazy at all.

Quas January 17, 2017 03:07PM

This is an exact example of why you are my 3rd favorite participant of this forum

Kstatida January 17, 2017 12:41PM

The 3 best are Jalim, Jalim, and Jalim.

Sam January 17, 2017 02:37PM

Who are the first two?

Matrik January 17, 2017 12:50PM

Batman and MiyagiYojimbo

Kstatida January 17, 2017 01:48PM

I won't forget this. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin January 17, 2017 03:15PM

You are #4

Kstatida January 18, 2017 12:22AM

Good picks.

Matrik January 17, 2017 02:17PM

4chan is not a valid source.

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 02:41PM

I don't into 4chan

Matrik January 16, 2017 02:43PM

Whatever you say Anonymatrik (n/t)

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 02:51PM

Yeah, pack your bug out bags you Carrion F'ers.

MiyagiYojimbo January 14, 2017 04:08PM

Will you move to Canada if this happens? (n/t)

Rhyaldrin January 14, 2017 12:35PM

Fuck no, I'm going to Mexico. NT

Sam January 15, 2017 05:47AM

lol liberals have no guns.

Rhyaldrin January 14, 2017 12:08PM

I think there's a rush in guns purchases

Kstatida January 16, 2017 04:44AM

LOL. No. I wrote a research paper on gun/ammo purchases...the main factor in increased sales is the NRA's propaganda.

Sam January 16, 2017 05:10AM

I did a paper on space and shit once too Sam.

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 03:27PM

You better not slander my science man-crush ever again, or I'm going to be Deep Throat against PETM. NT

Sam January 16, 2017 03:59PM

Sounds like the only thing you want to deep throat is the science man.

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 04:05PM

That's it. You were warned.

Sam January 16, 2017 04:26PM

Jalim's butthole?

NbM(VIP) January 16, 2017 04:31PM

Given our video series I don't think that qualifies as a secret.

Rhyaldrin January 16, 2017 04:32PM

:( it was a secret to me

NbM(VIP) January 16, 2017 04:36PM



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