Is that what universal means?

The Forsaken(VIP)

September 17, 2008 06:14AM

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I keep thinking that all of the proposed health care solutions focus on just those that do not have health care or cannot afford it.

Because what that means is that businesses still have to pay or jointly pay with their employees the cost of privatized (traditional) health care AND more socialized 'universal' healthcare for everyone else. Again, that means I'm paying for mine and the universal plan I don't qualify for.

I haven't seen too many truly universal health care plans proposed but I easily admit I didn't read Hilary's or Obama's more recent solutions.

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Democrat turning Republican....what about you??	alanon	September 15, 2008 09:08PM
Democrats are better for the economy.	bell	September 17, 2008 01:59PM
Libertarian turning non-voter	Rade	September 16, 2008 03:39PM
Clarification...	Rade	September 16, 2008 03:41PM
Mistaken assumptions.	Death_Claw	September 16, 2008 11:42AM
Suprised you aren't a Ron Paul supporter, or are you?~	ORB	September 16, 2008 12:41PM
I am. Idealogically he's much closer to my beliefs than anyone else at least. n/t	Death_Claw	September 18, 2008 03:38AM
Re: Mistaken assumptions.	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 12:34PM
There's a couple things that are important here.	Death_Claw	September 18, 2008 03:46AM
A couple of misleading things about your link	Rade	September 16, 2008 03:33PM
Re: A couple of misleading things about your link	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 06:32PM
I disagree	Rade	September 17, 2008 03:36AM
Re: I disagree	Isildur(VIP)	September 17, 2008 05:08AM
It's not an artificial division at all	Rade	September 17, 2008 04:15PM
Re: It's not an artificial division at all	Isildur(VIP)	September 17, 2008 06:58PM
I disagree entirely	Rade	September 17, 2008 09:46PM
Re: I disagree entirely	Isildur(VIP)	September 18, 2008 05:51AM
Re: I disagree entirely	Rade	September 18, 2008 06:39AM
That's the root of the problem with government.	Death_Claw	September 18, 2008 03:55AM
My thoughts are unless you make well over $500k a year you will not benefit from Republicans.	Balrahd(VIP)	September 16, 2008 09:51AM
again, by all accounts its not that high. txt	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 10:16AM
Republicans (mistakenly) think its the lesser of two evils.	Death_Claw	September 16, 2008 11:43AM
Dont trust a young man who is a conservative or an old man who is a liberal n/t	hopelessdwarf	September 16, 2008 07:12AM
Heheh, too true. nt	The Forsaken(VIP)	September 16, 2008 07:41AM
Abandoned republican turned independant with libertarian leanings?	ExPaladin(VIP)	September 16, 2008 05:49AM
easy identification for the parties is getting harder every day	morocco	September 16, 2008 05:47AM
I've been working since I was just 17	cyril	September 16, 2008 04:59AM
Re: I've been working since I was just 17	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 08:52AM
Improving the economy vs making money	cyril	September 16, 2008 09:29AM
That whole post is filled with failure. n/t	Death_Claw	September 16, 2008 11:44AM
You just don't get how government spending works.	Death_Claw	September 18, 2008 04:08AM
Clarify for my learnings?	cyril	September 16, 2008 04:29PM
Re: Improving the economy vs making money	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 10:21AM
HUGH FUCKING COSIGN	Batman	September 16, 2008 08:19AM
Cosigned. nt	cadothu	September 16, 2008 05:06AM
Re: Democrat turning Republican....what about you??	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 04:57AM
Unless you are making 200k+ don't bother voting Republican for tax breaks. ~	ORB	September 15, 2008 09:31PM
But only Republicans can make you safe. nt	Someone Not Special, Esquire	September 17, 2008 09:41AM
not quite that high. txt	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 04:52AM
Even Jegec would agree there's really no significant difference between the two on income taxes. n/t	Balrahd(VIP)	September 16, 2008 09:45AM
Even Jegec?	jegec	September 16, 2008 01:00PM
If everyone used this enlightened thinking...	morocco	September 16, 2008 01:39PM
Get over yourself	jegec	September 16, 2008 02:18PM
you already pay for it	morocco	September 16, 2008 06:20PM
Wow my Book of Life score goes up, I'll file that one away	jegec	September 17, 2008 09:37AM
It's inaccurate to say you're paying 30% for welfare.	Balrahd(VIP)	September 17, 2008 02:08PM
I'm in the same boat	Rade	September 18, 2008 05:26AM
Yeah, I disagree.	Balrahd(VIP)	September 18, 2008 12:33PM
It doesn't really work that way	Rade	September 18, 2008 02:18PM
?? That article doesn't contradict anything I said. And you can do the math yourself if you want.	Balrahd(VIP)	September 18, 2008 04:21PM
You have to admit	Rade	September 18, 2008 04:25PM
Re: You have to admit	Balrahd(VIP)	September 18, 2008 04:32PM
Re: You have to admit	Rade	September 18, 2008 05:40PM
Re: You have to admit	Rade	September 18, 2008 05:31PM
The extra "benefits" are illusory	jegec	September 18, 2008 03:57PM
That's because they aren't really republicans.	Sam	September 17, 2008 04:01PM
Who said that?	jegec	September 17, 2008 03:06PM
Re: Who said that?	Isildur(VIP)	September 17, 2008 04:43PM
Yeah I phrased that wrong	jegec	September 17, 2008 05:51PM
I don't know what 'similarly situated' really means, but...	Rade	September 16, 2008 03:21PM
Is that what universal means?	The Forsaken(VIP)	September 17, 2008 06:14AM
My understanding of the Canadian system	Rade	September 18, 2008 08:37AM
Re: Is that what universal means?	Isildur(VIP)	September 17, 2008 07:44AM
Re: Get over yourself	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 03:17PM
Well you've argued that in the past	jegec	September 16, 2008 03:54PM
Re: Well you've argued that in the past	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 06:48PM
based on what? txt	Isildur(VIP)	September 16, 2008 10:22AM
I'm taking that article at face value.	Balrahd(VIP)	September 16, 2008 02:50PM

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