Yeah, I do. My dad was a marine. You're gonna kill people. You're gonna get to live with that.

December 02, 2008 11:46PM
Yay, freedom.

Then, later you're probably gonna get fucked over by Uncle Sam. They'll discharge you without any sort of exit counciling, and you'll be happy to get the hell out without it, because you know that if you stick around for any length of time they'll just redeploy you. Maybe you'll be into redeployment (my dad was), but eventually you'll get your third purple heart and they'll let you go (do they still do that?). Then they'll either lose or misfile your GI bill shit and you'll have to twist a lot of arms to get that. What else. You will make friends in the Marine Corps that are better friends to you than anyone you'll have known before or since. If any of them die, you'll get to carry that around with you, along with the PTSD from being in combat, and the ghosts of all the people you kill. You'll get to keep that forever. By the time you're 65 (my dad is 65), you will maybe finally be getting military disability for all the purple hearts and the PTSD, and you'll feel like a shitheel for taking that money, but you'll probably take it because they'll probably owe it to you anyway. What else. Oh. Your kids will be supremely fucked up by your PTSD. They will have miserable fucking childhoods due to your innate emotional instability after having killed a few, a dozen, dozens, or hundreds of people with an assault rifle, grenades, or a fucking knife. Yeah. Semper fucking Fi.

Hmm. Oh, I have one good friend who was in the Marines for 8 years. He was a sniper. He's recently back from a couple of tours in Iraq. He is one of the sweetest, nicest people I know. He has killed a lot of people, and he got to bury his best friend and take the flag over to the kid's parents and break the news to the fiance. He is pretty shell shocked, but he functions okay. Just a lonely hermit now. Like my dad, really pissed off at all the soft, chubby, spoiled, ignorant, unappreciative people in this country who take every fucking luxury for granted. The Corps tried pretty hard to deny my friend's GI bill money, but his dad knew someone who knew someone, so he ended up getting it. Yeah. Semper fucking Fi.

You will kill people. You will have to live with that, and even if you are a hero, down the line, you won't feel like one.

But the grunts are the shit, and there's no sarcasm in that statement. Infantry and special forces have a bond like nothing else a human can attain. I've only witnessed it from the sidelines, but I've seen it a lot. Sad thing is once its over and a few years pass and the guilt finally sets in. Around the same number of people who died in Viet Nam killed themselves once they got back to the States. 63,000. My dad used to mention that from time to time when I was a kid. He decided not to do it, but I know he came pretty close.

Sorry to the people I just pissed off. Just my experience as vet offspring.
Subject Author Posted

Joining the Marines

mockley December 02, 2008 08:10AM

Who's the leader of the club that's made for you and me? M-I-C, K-E-Y, M-O-U-S-E! Mickey Mouse!~

Blackbird December 03, 2008 06:36AM

Mickey mouse. Forever let us hold our banners high HIGH HIGH HIGH! nt

Batman December 03, 2008 09:21AM

The only real response to your questions?

Gihn December 03, 2008 03:02AM

Thanks

cyril December 03, 2008 05:33AM

Re: Thanks

StinkyDino December 03, 2008 03:37PM

Re: Thanks

Gihn December 03, 2008 07:25AM

That has fuck all to do with what he stated, and you know it. GFG.

Scrimbul December 05, 2008 03:21PM

Yeah, absolutely. that would be great nt

mockley December 03, 2008 05:25AM

Re: Yeah, absolutely. that would be great nt

Gihn December 03, 2008 07:41AM

Infested Kerrigan, reporting in. NT

Batman December 03, 2008 04:32AM

Doesn't take a telepath to know what you're thinkin'.

Coumidin December 03, 2008 03:01PM

A mind dedicated to the swarm. NT

Batman December 03, 2008 03:14PM

Yeah, I do. My dad was a marine. You're gonna kill people. You're gonna get to live with that.

Inquisitor December 02, 2008 11:46PM

Yeah. Speaking of Vets.

istirith December 03, 2008 10:05PM

what I get for not fact checking my piss poor memory..

Inquisitor December 03, 2008 12:41PM

Sure. Now that Obama's elected. Wuss. nt

Isildur(VIP) December 02, 2008 01:01PM

When did he get elected?

Pro December 02, 2008 01:09PM

I want to know where you went

Coumidin December 02, 2008 01:12PM

I was in Hollywood.

Pro December 02, 2008 01:14PM

remember when I asked you and Odrirg about all that tv and radio you consume? Mo-ran.~

Blackbird December 02, 2008 04:56PM

The best part...

Pro December 02, 2008 07:19PM

Respect. My bro just joined the Aus army and Ill prolly do the same when I get back nt

blobqirt December 02, 2008 11:59AM

A Dingo ate my baby!

Pro December 02, 2008 01:15PM

Please no?

cyril December 02, 2008 11:41AM

Wait a minute...you assume I do drugs and assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups. nt

mockley December 02, 2008 02:05PM

No, nice word into mouth put

cyril December 02, 2008 02:22PM

Don't forget agent orange.

Inquisitor December 02, 2008 11:55PM

B.S.

Pro December 03, 2008 06:30AM

67 is not an age healthy people die at.

Coumidin December 03, 2008 03:05PM

Depends on the person.

Pro December 03, 2008 05:07PM

Ah, understood. Sorry for misinterpreting nt

mockley December 02, 2008 05:15PM

Here's a word to put in your mouth.

Pro December 02, 2008 03:57PM

History!

cyril December 02, 2008 04:20PM

Hehe.

Pro December 02, 2008 04:40PM

Naturally, they wouldn't test with the majority of the soldiers.

DurNominator(VIP) December 02, 2008 08:29PM

I don't.

Pro December 03, 2008 05:30AM

I do understand your argument

cyril December 03, 2008 05:43AM

Here's my argument.

Pro December 03, 2008 06:32AM

Vietnam wasn't the beginning of last century n/t

cyril December 03, 2008 06:36AM

Your gas mask example didn't happen in Vietnam.

Pro December 03, 2008 02:25PM

LSD example, plz n/t

cyril December 03, 2008 03:53PM

The CIA did far more illegal testing of LSD on citizens then military members.~

ExPaladin(VIP) December 03, 2008 04:32PM

lol, nothing gets through the jar.~

Blackbird December 03, 2008 06:34AM

Re: Hehe.

cyril December 02, 2008 04:54PM

You must be talking about some back water army.

Pro December 02, 2008 07:23PM

This was US military chief. All within the last century n/t

cyril December 02, 2008 07:47PM

Yeah, 1915 was last centry.

Pro December 03, 2008 05:20AM

Century = 100 years

cyril December 03, 2008 05:22AM

My point was this..

Pro December 03, 2008 06:34AM

Well explain this please

ExPaladin(VIP) December 03, 2008 06:23AM

Re: Well explain this please

Isildur(VIP) December 03, 2008 06:32AM

Re: Well explain this please

Pro December 03, 2008 06:37AM

Did you know?

cyril December 03, 2008 06:42AM

Red leader I can't shake 'em! *krr* Stay on topic! n/t

Pro December 03, 2008 02:27PM

Nice.

Jib December 03, 2008 08:15PM

Use of differing definitions

cyril December 03, 2008 06:31AM

Whether intentional or not, your post is saying pro was wrong and you were right

ExPaladin(VIP) December 03, 2008 07:06AM

But the experiment you are speaking of happing during

Pro December 03, 2008 06:38AM

We do?

cyril December 03, 2008 06:43AM

Nope. Still ticking.

Pro December 03, 2008 02:28PM

You fucking Moron.

Pro December 02, 2008 11:57AM

Damn, and I thought he was being pretty nice about it.

Coumidin December 02, 2008 01:15PM

It's a slanted view of the teambuilding process, most often expressed by those who have never experienced it~

ExPaladin(VIP) December 02, 2008 01:18PM

Why don't you make a real response instead of spamming flames? nt

DurNominator(VIP) December 02, 2008 01:01PM

Here's one.

Pro December 02, 2008 01:09PM

You did it twice today.

DurNominator(VIP) December 02, 2008 01:37PM

You won't find any.

Pro December 02, 2008 03:55PM

No, it's not

cyril December 02, 2008 11:59AM

Ex- Canadian infantry as well.

demos December 02, 2008 08:56AM

I'm Ex-Canadian Infantry. Regular not Reserve.

BattleCharmed December 02, 2008 08:49AM

Good luck.

Pro December 02, 2008 08:27AM

Why do you say infantry?

mockley December 02, 2008 09:06AM

I say infantry because...

Pro December 02, 2008 11:21AM

or you die. txt

Isildur(VIP) December 02, 2008 06:41PM

That's because inherently.. You are a coward.

Pro December 02, 2008 07:27PM

This is exactly the type of mentality needed for the job

Coumidin December 02, 2008 09:41PM

Re: That's because inherently.. You are a coward.

Isildur(VIP) December 02, 2008 08:13PM

I don't think you are a coward.

Pro December 03, 2008 02:30PM

Maybe I can better explain the sentiment

Gihn December 03, 2008 03:16AM

Re: Maybe I can better explain the sentiment

Isildur(VIP) December 03, 2008 05:19AM

Re: Maybe I can better explain the sentiment

Gihn December 03, 2008 07:35AM

Re: Maybe I can better explain the sentiment

Isildur(VIP) December 03, 2008 09:49AM

Re: Maybe I can better explain the sentiment

Gihn December 04, 2008 12:06AM

Conversly, the best leaders I have ever had were grunts.

Pro December 03, 2008 02:38PM

It's a Black Thing. Gotcha. NT

nebel December 03, 2008 10:26PM

The argument isn't entirely invalid when applied to the entire armed forces, however.

ExPaladin(VIP) December 03, 2008 07:40AM

I got like a 88 or something.

Pro December 03, 2008 02:33PM

Re: The argument isn't entirely invalid when applied to the entire armed forces, however.

Gihn December 03, 2008 07:46AM

That was why I generalized it to the armed services

ExPaladin(VIP) December 03, 2008 07:48AM

Everyone I've known has regretted it. nt

zen December 02, 2008 08:35AM

Because they were scrubs.

Pro December 02, 2008 11:19AM

Your bravado makes my dick hard

HairyOrangutan December 03, 2008 04:09AM

You take care of the other countries--I'll take care of Gotham.

Batman December 02, 2008 08:11AM

You just inspired me to watch 'Batman Begins' again. nt

istirith December 02, 2008 11:23AM

I'm crackin up in my cube. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) December 02, 2008 09:26AM



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