Re: Well.

July 19, 2011 04:26AM
"due to the nature of the era and how records were generally kept I simply do not find the timeline (or lack of timeliness?) all that convincing an argument against it. "

That doesn't make any sense. If records are bad, the information is unreliable, it's funny to me how you're trying to make that an argument FOR your stance. You have no reason to rely on any of that, to do so would be entirely unreasonable.

"AH! My foot!"
Subject Author Posted

In regards to the post about Christian beliefs, a few counter question:

satchmo July 18, 2011 02:19PM

So from the look of all these threads, it looks like Isildur, Forsaken and Paulo are christians. I think Twist and Shokai might be as well. (recalling some forum posts and conversations I had with Twist long ago). (n/t)

Returner July 19, 2011 11:25PM

Without stepping on his toes, I think I'd say Isildur is an agnostic theist? NT

Batman July 20, 2011 12:48AM

My beard is reaching epic proportions.

PaulO July 20, 2011 05:37AM

The American Scholar is a fun one.

Batman July 20, 2011 06:01AM

I have a copy of Walden I've been meaning to read for a while now. (n/t)

PaulO July 21, 2011 03:34PM

No, I think that's Rade. Another Christian would be Scarabaeus (or was last we talked). nt

The Forsaken(VIP) July 20, 2011 04:49AM

Running the most evil cabal in the game and closest to satanism? (n/t)

Returner July 20, 2011 07:01AM

I wanna be like Jesus.

agraemas July 19, 2011 04:00PM

I'll get some nails and 2x4's. (n/t)

vladamir July 26, 2011 02:26PM

I like it! (n/t)

satchmo July 19, 2011 04:17PM

And this is why I gave up on discussing religion on the internet years ago.

wrathpuppet July 19, 2011 11:08AM

The cruelty of your old masters is at an end!

Artificial July 19, 2011 05:31PM

And so it begins. (n/t)

wrathpuppet July 20, 2011 02:20AM

Huh

chuntog July 19, 2011 04:36PM

We miss you :(

Sam July 19, 2011 06:22PM

I'm occasionally around!

chuntog July 21, 2011 05:08AM

Intronan, right? nt

The Forsaken(VIP) July 20, 2011 04:58AM

Chuntog played some later IMM who deleted while I was around.

DurNominator(VIP) July 20, 2011 11:53PM

You all are such n00bs. Quinthen = Intronan = Khasotholas = Chuntog. NT

Sam July 21, 2011 01:36AM

Yes, Khasotholas is right.

DurNominator(VIP) July 21, 2011 01:44AM

My American humor is lost on you :)

Sam July 23, 2011 04:35PM

No.

wrathpuppet July 19, 2011 05:13PM

Okay but see...

satchmo July 19, 2011 04:48PM

No way.

PaulO July 20, 2011 05:31AM

Re: No way.

dart July 21, 2011 11:47PM

Re: No way.

PaulO July 22, 2011 08:20AM

Re: No way.

dart July 22, 2011 09:07AM

This is incredibly dishonest.

Artificial July 20, 2011 11:31PM

Don't take the facts too personally.

PaulO July 21, 2011 03:33PM

Implying they are facts.

Artificial July 22, 2011 08:27AM

Re: No way.

satchmo July 20, 2011 05:14PM

secularism is responsible for saving the lives of one billion people. Forget the deaths on either side. (n/t)

Artificial July 20, 2011 11:28PM

Science is definitely not there to disprove god

Artificial July 19, 2011 05:36PM

That's what I was trying to say...so yeah. (n/t)

satchmo July 19, 2011 06:19PM

I was simply emphasizing. (n/t)

Artificial July 19, 2011 11:23PM

+ 1 vote for the electricity farms. :) (n/t)

satchmo July 19, 2011 04:14PM

Electric Farms, weeeee! NT

Batman July 19, 2011 11:10AM

All anyone needs if they wanted to hear the more famous/elegant arguments against religion.

Batman July 19, 2011 08:45AM

Good luck.

Quixotic July 19, 2011 08:25AM

Re: In regards to the post about Christian beliefs, a few counter question:

Isildur(VIP) July 19, 2011 07:06AM

I feel the same about the Catholic Church. NT

Batman July 19, 2011 08:43AM

Re: In regards to the post about Christian beliefs, a few counter question:

Artificial July 18, 2011 05:39PM

Re: In regards to the post about Christian beliefs, a few counter question:

PaulO July 18, 2011 06:54PM

One more thing - life expectancy

The Forsaken(VIP) July 18, 2011 06:13PM

Just like this statistic

torak July 18, 2011 07:54PM

Thanks for clearing that up. That's what I was thinking when I read that. (n/t)

Jib July 18, 2011 06:23PM

All of them were illiterate peasants, too.

vortexmagus July 18, 2011 06:03PM

I totally agree with this.

satchmo July 19, 2011 04:35PM

Curious - What do you think about Josephus? nt (n/t)

The Forsaken(VIP) July 18, 2011 06:00PM

yay 10 minutes of lag (n/t)

Artificial July 18, 2011 08:13PM

Some reading

Artificial July 18, 2011 08:13PM

Let me see if I got this straight

PaulO July 19, 2011 04:29AM

Let me get this straight

vortexmagus July 19, 2011 05:33AM

Re: Let me get this straight

PaulO July 19, 2011 08:03AM

Re: Let me get this straight

Stevers July 19, 2011 08:14AM

Actually

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 09:00AM

Re: Let me get this straight

PaulO July 19, 2011 08:38AM

I'm beginning to think that you didn't even read that post you linked me to. n/t

Stevers July 19, 2011 08:40AM

Exaggeration aside

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 05:54AM

I took the avoiding as a joke.

Batman July 19, 2011 06:12AM

Of which we have no records at all, aside from casual references to his religion 50+ years after his crucifixion, by people who couldn't possibly have met him

vortexmagus July 19, 2011 06:07AM

You're obviously confused.

Batman July 19, 2011 06:25AM

Great insult from that

Stevers July 19, 2011 07:51AM

So I read that and saw some excellent CF char names...

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 07:28AM

It's not necessarily that I think they're dead.

Batman July 19, 2011 07:40AM

What if...

PaulO July 19, 2011 10:11AM

Why transport goods with ships, trains and lorries?

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 01:02AM

Because God isn't our slave?

PaulO July 22, 2011 08:25AM

Do I need to post the quotes about prayer from the bible again? (n/t)

Artificial July 22, 2011 08:28AM

God is dog spelled backwards. That has to count for something. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 08:27AM

Correct. I bend to Hume, Einstein, etc. here in that miracles are deceptive in and of themselves.

Batman July 19, 2011 10:47AM

What if...

Matrik July 19, 2011 10:25AM

Re: What if...

PaulO July 19, 2011 10:49AM

I had faith, I was patient, and I did pray.

Matrik July 19, 2011 12:34PM

I direct you to the post a little ways down this thread on the problem of evil (n/t)

Artificial July 19, 2011 11:37AM

What if you could have your proof by believing in what I believe in? NT

Batman July 19, 2011 10:51AM

See: "The Invention of Lying" Ricky Gervais movie (2009) (n/t)

wrathpuppet July 19, 2011 10:27AM

NO Ricky Gervais is the scum of the Earth.

Matrik July 19, 2011 10:28AM

What do you have against Ricky Gervais? (n/t)

alansmithee July 19, 2011 01:48PM

Nothing really. Just don't like his comedic style. (n/t)

Matrik July 19, 2011 04:22PM

Dude, you called him scum of the earth. You said you hate him. That's pretty strong for someone you have nothing against. Damn. (n/t)

alansmithee July 19, 2011 04:34PM

Good thing this isn't court. (n/t)

Matrik July 19, 2011 06:24PM

What the hell are you talking about? (n/t)

alansmithee July 19, 2011 07:39PM

God, Hell, Ricky Gervais, courts, and comedy.

Matrik July 19, 2011 07:59PM

In that case you probably won't like this (not particularly good) movie, but it's exactly the scenario you describe. (n/t)

wrathpuppet July 19, 2011 04:26PM

The whole movie is about religion. (n/t)

wrathpuppet July 19, 2011 10:32AM

Sure, I understand.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 09:23AM

If you believe in divine intervention then, whats your take on the problem of evil?

Artificial July 19, 2011 09:36AM

Book of Job is all I got.

PaulO July 19, 2011 01:53PM

You can't assert that miracles have happened that aren't proven.

Batman July 19, 2011 02:01PM

Re:

PaulO July 20, 2011 05:08AM

I honestly wasn't going to respond due to the numerous insults and attempts at self-righteous references of trust.

Batman July 23, 2011 08:08AM

I don’t trust my uncle Daevryn to evaluate data. Winner. (n/t)

Artificial July 23, 2011 09:15AM

Re: Testing lightning

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 01:22AM

Think you missed the part about extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence.

Matrik July 20, 2011 07:10AM

"Whatever are the foundations of your beliefs, have you repeatedly verified them in person?" (n/t)

PaulO July 20, 2011 08:18AM

I don't really have any extraordinary beliefs...

Matrik July 20, 2011 08:35AM

Guess it depends on how you define extraordinary

PaulO July 21, 2011 03:05PM

Strawman

Artificial July 22, 2011 08:34AM

I guess Batman's friends aren't trusted sources. (n/t)

PaulO July 22, 2011 02:41PM

The sources aren't in question, the claims are. (n/t)

Matrik July 22, 2011 02:56PM

I don't think you understand what trust means.

Starscream July 22, 2011 02:56PM

Watch the movie Contact

PaulO July 22, 2011 04:38PM

Having seen combat, I have friends that I trust my life with and vice versa.

Matrik July 22, 2011 06:48PM

Even if I would lay down my life for someone, I'm not going to believe they saw a ufo unless they can prove it.

Starscream July 22, 2011 06:16PM

I haven't noticed anyone saying that the UFO has to be extraterrestrial.

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 07:42PM

I was following Batman's example of alien abduction and Paul's reference to the movie Contact. I know what UFO means and that's why I specified extraterrestrial in this case.

Starscream July 23, 2011 05:03AM

What makes it an UFO is that it is flying and you don't know what it is.

DurNominator(VIP) July 23, 2011 06:13AM

DurNominator. Please draw a UFO (n/t)

Matrik July 23, 2011 09:01AM

By that retarded and completely incorrect American definition? Sure.

DurNominator(VIP) July 23, 2011 11:12AM

Dur's UFO:

Batman July 23, 2011 11:18AM

I don't think you follow me.

Starscream July 23, 2011 06:22AM

Pretty sure everyone in the discussion is running under the assumption that the UFO is alien.

Matrik July 22, 2011 07:48PM

That is not something that can be verified as long as the object remains UFO. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 07:50PM

You trollin?

Matrik July 22, 2011 08:15PM

No trolling here.

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 09:47PM

In Amerka, UFO is commonly used to reference "Alien/Extraterrestr ial Spacecraft" - entirely incorrect in relation to formal definition, but that is the context here. NT

Batman July 23, 2011 07:03AM

Your missing the context

Matrik July 22, 2011 10:37PM

Then boy do I have a business opportunity for you! All I need is your bank account and pin number to get started!

Artificial July 22, 2011 06:05PM

Citation inside for the Sagan story

Matrik July 20, 2011 02:58PM

HAI BATMAN U R NOW CHRISTIAN

Matrik July 19, 2011 08:17AM

Done. See you at church! NT

Batman July 19, 2011 08:38AM

Also build a moat with parting waters. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 01:27AM

A Jewish conspiracy that the Jews hated? Heh.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 04:48AM

Well.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 04:18AM

You could always rock out with the agnostics like me :)

Sam July 19, 2011 07:13AM

Re: You could always rock out with the agnostics like me :)

Stevers July 19, 2011 07:45AM

agnostic - a- 'without' gnosis- 'knowledge'

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 07:32AM

You could also believe without accepting any written scripture as a guideline. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 01:29AM

I lolled. NT

Batman July 19, 2011 07:48AM

Because agnosticism is right between theism and atheism. NT

Batman July 19, 2011 07:25AM

Re: Well.

Starscream July 19, 2011 04:26AM

No.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 04:46AM

Nothing out of the ordinary has no bearing on the credibility.

Starscream July 19, 2011 05:12AM

Disagree.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 05:29AM

Re: Disagree.

Artificial July 19, 2011 08:20AM

You're kind of an idiot. I know you wish you were Batman but...you're not.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 08:53AM

Most of us didn't read NT because we assumed that it contained no text. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) July 22, 2011 03:01AM

As long as we're name-calling: from my viewpoint you're a total retard as well.

Starscream July 19, 2011 10:55AM

You need to learn what good evidence is, child.

Artificial July 19, 2011 09:15AM

My point remains.

The Forsaken(VIP) July 19, 2011 09:30AM

I wasnt going to respond to this before, but since I am replying to others, I will deign to do so.

Artificial July 22, 2011 08:38AM

Tacitus was the other one, he was Roman and not Jewish. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) July 18, 2011 06:06PM

I'll bite

wrathpuppet July 18, 2011 02:40PM

So...

satchmo July 18, 2011 03:03PM

I think

wrathpuppet July 18, 2011 03:11PM

Re: I think

satchmo July 18, 2011 04:04PM



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