I generally agree with you

Rade

January 30, 2013 11:34AM

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I would add that most military jobs do not really *require* the PT requirements of a combat warrior. If you're an auto mechanic you don't need to have the same levels of physical fitness as the guys busting down doors and taking people down in close quarter combat. And that yes, the the standards should be lowered for both men and women in the cases where it's really not necessary.

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More on women in combat roles	Matrik	January 30, 2013 07:09AM
Mysogyny?	chuntog	January 31, 2013 06:01AM
I'll cede that there may possibly be some gender-based differences, but as I pointed out: Most does not mean all.	Matrik	January 31, 2013 06:12AM
Couple things..	Java	January 30, 2013 09:25PM
Will make it short since you mostly seem to be saying the same things.	Matrik	January 31, 2013 06:26AM
Without even getting to the point that 98% of the women in the military are absolute dogs	kanye	January 30, 2013 05:17PM
Doesn't matter. You're a Cheater. End of Story. (n/t)	Pro	January 30, 2013 07:07PM
lol at the 5s become 10s	Matrik	January 30, 2013 05:29PM
Who can forget she's a desert 10! (n/t)	Pro	January 30, 2013 07:08PM
You shouldn't try to prevent the pregnancy spike.	DurNominator(VIP)	January 30, 2013 12:10PM
Ok boy scout	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:19PM
Yup. That's why it's called infantry. (n/t)	DurNominator(VIP)	January 30, 2013 12:21PM
I generally agree with you	Rade	January 30, 2013 11:34AM
I agree with your premise. However, consider too that above all we/you are always riflemen first. So even joe slob the supply guy needs to have basic fitness. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:17PM
For the spike in pregnancy you do have to take into account how much of that is deployment avoidance... (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	January 30, 2013 10:40AM
Clarify please. The spike I'm referring to is specifically for the purposes of deployment avoidance. Are you arguing that it isn't or was I not clear? (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:43AM
Oh, I just read it wrong, I agree with you. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	January 30, 2013 11:02AM
Wish you wouldn't. This thread is boring.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 11:03AM
We could have a discussion on gender roles and gender in general.	sevriis	January 30, 2013 12:18PM
I'm ok with either. My fiance's thesis required a lot of research/info regarding gender roles, so I'll be coming to that fight guns blazing.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:23PM
ohhh my :3 (n/t)	sevriis	January 30, 2013 01:59PM
Re: More on women in combat roles	ghuljun_thul	January 30, 2013 10:35AM
re: Love affect	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:41AM
Not so much an argument as me writing my thoughts on the matter, and yes my thoughts at times are filled with contradictions and fallacies. (n/t)	ghuljun_thul	January 30, 2013 11:52AM
Haha, no dude. Not YOUR argument. THE (love affect) argument. You did fine. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:18PM
Good post, Matrik. inb4 insanity. (n/t)	wrathpuppet	January 30, 2013 09:47AM
Can you explain "inb4" for me? Seriously. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:17AM
Meme for predicting a response before it's said thereby theoretically reducing credibility of said response. (n/t)	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 10:23AM
Everything I need to know about how effective women would be in combat I learned watching Starship Troopers (n/t)	Baroness	January 30, 2013 09:31AM
Like any good military person, you have used too many acronyms...	JimmyDean	January 30, 2013 08:58AM
Yeah sorry.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:29AM
I think it would be easier to think about this less if/when male birth control becomes feasible. e.g. 'the pill' for men that safely reduces or eliminates sperm count ala the old Mountain Dew rumor.	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 10:29AM
Huh, I assumed this already existed. Not too surprised I guess. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:30AM
It doesn't exist, but consider that if it did you lose a huge amount of incentive to be 'moral' in the biblical sense of the word with regard to pre-marital sex.	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 10:47AM
I see what you are saying, but I don't see how you come to that conclusion.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:53AM
Right to reproduce is a basic human right.	DurNominator(VIP)	January 30, 2013 12:16PM
US Military personnel are expected to give up certain "basic human rights" as a condition of service. I'm ok with this.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:21PM
I think it is better to give them the choise.	DurNominator(VIP)	January 30, 2013 12:31PM
So, let's assume that mandatory birth control is off the table:	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:50PM
The military does offer free birth control and conoms. "Accidental" pregnancies aren't the issue that this is attempting to address.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 12:39PM
Vasectomies are reversible, yes.	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 10:58AM
So what about condoms? I just don't think going a little further down the road of making recreational sex easier is going to be a big deal. I mean, we are damn near 100% there already heh. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 10:59AM
Outside of a shithole fob that a trailer px, condoms can be found in theather. (n/t)	kanye	January 30, 2013 05:20PM
I think at this point the conversation is no longer military related. However, our clinic gave out condoms to whoever. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 05:29PM
Condoms are not a big deal to me, but you can imagine how quickly in today's political environment male birth control will be regulated out of the market entirely if the wrong combination of politicians realize it exists.	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 11:01AM
Oh yeah, for sure. Some will try. (n/t)	Matrik	January 30, 2013 11:02AM
I have been editing my posts as I go like a tard, but if you check my top post I added a link to the male birth control thing. You may want to glance over the posts again going down. (n/t)	Scrimbul	January 30, 2013 11:10AM
Damn youuu.	Matrik	January 30, 2013 11:34AM

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