Re: Not all discussions...

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Posted by Saerin on January 11, 2000 at 10:49:28:

In Reply to: Not all discussions... posted by Graatch on January 11, 2000 at 10:03:28:

> Not all discussions which highlight a problem (even a perceived problem) are "whining".

You haven't been just 'highlighting' a problem. You've posted your problem with the new
rager powers over and over in a manner that never gives a suggestion on how to change
things but complains how difficult a time your character had with the changes.

> There is value in both identifying and then publicizing something "wrong", or seemingly unreasonable, be it in the game of cf or anywhere else in life.

How many derrogatory statements did you make about the new rager powers? Quite a few Graatch.

> Simply because comments are negative does not mean someone is "whining", or what have you.

But this does depend on the poster and way he goes about making his point

> I have no doubts some of you will have the urge to respond to this and insult me, flame me, whatever. Get over it. It's not personal, and it serves no purpose. Just move on and think about the subject of the post, not the poster.

I disagree. If the poster does reveal himself, how can you not take that
into account when reading the post. I see bitching and moaning about spellbane,
and look to see the poster is Graatch/Diarmuid. I think to myself that he's played quite
a few masters who have had the upper hand for a long time. Now that some parity
has been introduced he's complaining about it. It seems quite selfish really.

Never once did I hear you say that the changes were a good thing, and no longer
would Masters "roll over" Battle (question of competent players aside). It always
seemed to be more about YOU and less about the game as a whole. Maybe I wouldn't
have had that impression if this had been a live discussion.

IMHO, the new Battle powers were one of the best things to happen in the game for
a long time.

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Re: Not all discussions... Graatch 13:15:52 1/11/2000 (12)
- What ragers did you play? text Cethern 17:59:22 1/11/2000 (11)
  - Before you start calling Graatch out here... Arythrina! 04:23:13 1/12/2000 (3)
    - Re: Before you start calling Graatch out here... Cethern 05:06:44 1/12/2000 (2)
      - ummm Graham 05:22:21 1/12/2000 (1)
        
        Um? That's my line! Umguy 07:39:20 1/12/2000 (0)
  - Re: What ragers did you play? text Graatch 19:40:25 1/11/2000 (6)
    - Re: What ragers did you play? text Cethern 04:39:43 1/12/2000 (4)
      - A last few responses, the thread is getting too long. Graatch 08:29:20 1/12/2000 (3)
        
        Re: A last few responses, the thread is getting too long. gees 10:31:30 1/16/2000 (0)
        
        Re: A last few responses, the thread is getting too long. Gees 10:24:31 1/16/2000 (0)
        
        Actually, I'm a felar n/t Takashimi 12:26:07 1/12/2000 (0)
    - Re: What ragers did you play? text nesam 22:24:14 1/11/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> > Not all discussions which highlight a problem (even a perceived problem) are "whining". > You haven't been just 'highlighting' a problem. You've posted your problem with the new > rager powers over and over in a manner that never gives a suggestion on how to change > things but complains how difficult a time your character had with the changes. > > There is value in both identifying and then publicizing something "wrong", or seemingly unreasonable, be it in the game of cf or anywhere else in life. > How many derrogatory statements did you make about the new rager powers? Quite a few Graatch. > > Simply because comments are negative does not mean someone is "whining", or what have you. > But this does depend on the poster and way he goes about making his point > > I have no doubts some of you will have the urge to respond to this and insult me, flame me, whatever. Get over it. It's not personal, and it serves no purpose. Just move on and think about the subject of the post, not the poster. > I disagree. If the poster does reveal himself, how can you not take that > into account when reading the post. I see bitching and moaning about spellbane, > and look to see the poster is Graatch/Diarmuid. I think to myself that he's played quite > a few masters who have had the upper hand for a long time. Now that some parity > has been introduced he's complaining about it. It seems quite selfish really. > Never once did I hear you say that the changes were a good thing, and no longer > would Masters "roll over" Battle (question of competent players aside). It always > seemed to be more about YOU and less about the game as a whole. Maybe I wouldn't > have had that impression if this had been a live discussion. > IMHO, the new Battle powers were one of the best things to happen in the game for > a long time.

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