Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, no.

January 22, 2008 02:23PM
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_Magus_
How many people make it to the exploring levels with their first character?
If they're a healer who knows how to press the "heal" and "gr" buttons? I'd take one.

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_Magus_
Any low level mob will destroy a healer and transmuter. That makes them dependant on other players to level them up.
As if a newbie assassin is not going to be dependent on other players to level him up? He doesn't know any areas, any gear, or really what any of his skills do. And you expect him to solo rank?

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_Magus_
Healers depend on the staff to empower their character.
True. But it's solely role-play based, which is something a newbie shouldn't have a big problem with. There's no knowledge pre-requisite. Plus it gets them immteraction.

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_Magus_
Not the type of character to just get into the mix and start learning things.
Granted, you're not going to learn much about offensive PK from playing a healer. Hopefully you can learn something about basic survival, and get a grip on the game's areas, gear and skills, enough so that with future characters you can begin to explore offensive PK.

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_Magus_
Their support role are extremely important to groups, and someone who doesn't know what they are doing will probably die a lot more.
Someone who doesn't know what he's doing is going to die a lot more *period*. At least with a healer or muter he's not suddenly worthless to any and all ranking groups because he's suddenly buck naked.

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_Magus_
Which do you think would be more enjoyable to someone just trying things out for the first time? Getting raped by everything and everyone (for healers, sanctuary might save them / for transmuters, a/b/s saves them), or being capable of actually fighting mobs and doing something productive on your own?
How about "sitting in your guild sulking because nobody wants to group with you"?

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_Magus_
Like I said, getting a feel for the game, and beginning to understand roleplay and religions, and the system, is much better than trying to dive head first into a support character.
Really? I would imagine the duties of a support character to be significantly less "demanding" than those of someone expected to tank, or pump out lots of damage.

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_Magus_
As a healer or transmuter, you're going to get dragged all over the map, and never know where the fuck you are, too.
Again, that's always going to be the case for a newbie. At least with a healer you stand the chance of people taking you someplace interesting. And you have free word of recall and teleport if you get lost. Not to mention sanctify room. As for learning areas by walking around, that's really where a transmuter would stand out. Rank up to duo and you can walk around most areas to your heart's content without worrying about people jumping you.

For the record, I wasn't necessarily talking about "first character ever". I'm assuming most people's "first character ever" is going to look around the academy, maybe read some helpfiles, then delete. So in that case it doesn't really matter WHAT you roll.

Some other suggestions I'd make:

offense/air shifter
forester/explorer ranger

Offense air shifter, like healer and muter, doesn't need gear to be an effective group mate. Nor does he need to be competent at monitoring people's health or haste status. Basically he just needs to know how to enliven haste and autoassist. He gets locate and identify. If he makes it to an upper-tier air form, that greatly expands his ability to explore Thera and figure out where areas lie in relation to one another.
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Best newbie char ever!

ekvilibr January 21, 2008 08:53AM

Check the inn - there is a mob which will ID for cash nt

Leud January 21, 2008 10:28AM

I've always thought healer could be a great newbie character. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 21, 2008 10:07AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, no.

xenoroyal January 21, 2008 02:30PM

The reasons you need to stop posting are within.

shadowmaster January 22, 2008 02:00PM

http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=sh ow_mesg&forum=31&topic_id=3688&mesg_id=3699&page=

lothorectred January 22, 2008 07:23PM

Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, no.

Isildur(VIP) January 22, 2008 06:20AM

Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, no.

_Magus_ January 22, 2008 01:38PM

Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, no.

Isildur(VIP) January 22, 2008 02:23PM

Goodie conjurer is great for newbie. I've began with it

Elhe January 21, 2008 11:31PM

ahahah no n/t

xenoroyal January 22, 2008 12:21AM

Sorry but I know what's best choice for me while you don't n/t

Elhe January 22, 2008 04:00PM

If you can handle the empowerment part, that is. nt

DurNominator(VIP) January 21, 2008 11:24AM

Empowerment is hard for newbie n/t

ekvilibr January 21, 2008 11:39AM

I disagree

Rodriguez January 21, 2008 12:21PM

You're wrong. How many first characters have great roles and are well roleplayed? n/t

xenoroyal January 21, 2008 02:30PM

Me bitch :) NT

Sam January 21, 2008 07:52PM

no n/t

xenoroyal January 22, 2008 12:21AM

Look at your perameters dickwipe. Great role, well roleplayed.

Sam January 22, 2008 06:01AM

Not to flame for no reason...

mmmmk January 22, 2008 03:16PM

Sorry, but I've had sucky chars recently and occasionally I get nostalgic. NT

Sam January 22, 2008 05:22PM

That was your first character?

_Magus_ January 22, 2008 01:39PM

Yes NT

Sam January 22, 2008 05:20PM

Plenty of empowered characters fail to satisfy those criteria nt

daurwyn(VIP) January 21, 2008 03:26PM

Re: I disagree

Isildur(VIP) January 21, 2008 01:26PM

Empowerment is good for a second character.

_Magus_ January 21, 2008 12:23PM

I agree. nt

DurNominator(VIP) January 22, 2008 12:30AM

Third char for me. Watch out Magus, I'm starting to hate you less. Stop with the good advice, dammit! NT

Sam January 21, 2008 06:35PM

This is a much more resonable (read: much less retarded) statement. n/t

xenoroyal January 21, 2008 02:31PM

I heard healers are most hunted.. n/t

ekvilibr January 21, 2008 10:12AM

No. Plus you get gate/teleport/word nt

Graham January 21, 2008 10:35AM

Is it true you can gate out of combat?

_Magus_ January 21, 2008 12:21PM

I think it's harder from combat.

Graham January 22, 2008 10:18AM

Isn't there an edge that changes this? Someone should experiment with it! nt

Yhorian(VIP) January 22, 2008 12:11PM

Yeah, it is. No holds barred afaik. nt

shamanman January 21, 2008 12:46PM

There are some restrictions on gate

ExPaladin(VIP) January 22, 2008 10:25AM

You get lore, though.

_Magus_ January 21, 2008 09:42AM

yes

xenoroyal January 21, 2008 08:58AM



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