You're missing the importance of dex and daggers in this.

May 20, 2008 02:54PM
I don't think it is -just- stsf that is making everything so out of whack. When you throw on the -dex that daggers can dish out in relative ease on top of stsf - well, that's just harsh. It used to be that dex didn't matter all that much, so hamstring was really only good for -mv and preventing someone from manipulating inventory or getting items (disarmed). Dex is a bit tougher to gear for than str, but since a dagger spec can easily throw out a lot of -str too, that just overly complicates it and makes gearing against dagger stsf so impossible.

So, a dagger stsf will win melee because the -dex advantage, the increased evade, increased concealed attacks, increased weapon strikes, the potential of -str dropping weapons, AND then finally the charging of stsf.

That's a crazy combination. If other classes had ways to also -dex the high dex races we'd be on a more level playing field. But admit it, not many skills, supplications, or spells exist that can be used to mitigate the dex advantage of an agile warrior.
Subject Author Posted

Devil's Advocate: STSF

wildgirl May 20, 2008 01:35PM

My opinion

jad_hoven May 21, 2008 03:50AM

Two words. Dex changes. NT

Sam May 20, 2008 03:48PM

nep's stsf elf beat hunsobo in a solo fight. txt

Isildur(VIP) May 20, 2008 03:48PM

How can you compare yourself to Hunsobo?

jmc May 20, 2008 03:01PM

This was my point.

odrirg May 20, 2008 03:17PM

I never played a giant bash spec

jmc May 20, 2008 03:59PM

Beating STSF

wildgirl May 20, 2008 04:23PM

Re: Beating STSF

Elhe May 20, 2008 05:03PM

Re: Beating STSF

Scrimbul May 20, 2008 06:31PM

The idea is that STSF owns melee classes.

Balrahd(VIP) May 20, 2008 04:33PM

Not all melee all the time.

wildgirl May 20, 2008 05:02PM

Yes, all melee all the time (unless the STSF is much worse off than the opponent)

Balrahd(VIP) May 20, 2008 07:14PM

100% misinfo

odrirg May 20, 2008 09:36PM

No, it is not.

Balrahd(VIP) May 21, 2008 03:16AM

odrirg = graatch lite, you know that. YOU WILL BAN HIM EVENTUALLY NT

Scrimbul May 21, 2008 06:35AM

again. Misinfo

odrirg May 21, 2008 05:55AM

Negatory. Super misinfo here.

Blackbird May 21, 2008 07:31AM

Re: Negatory. Super misinfo here.

Isildur(VIP) May 21, 2008 07:44AM

There is a timer, but it is a very long one.

Balrahd(VIP) May 21, 2008 07:49AM

I had it and was going to say 12 minutes or so.

The Forsaken(VIP) May 21, 2008 09:05AM

Here's an easy way to test if you still have him:

Balrahd(VIP) May 21, 2008 02:20PM

Nep's only said it resets when you die. I've no idea if it fades over time or not. nt

Yhorian(VIP) May 21, 2008 03:02AM

Not all CF players are all about playing the most powerful race/class combos.

Krilcov May 20, 2008 03:28PM

fake post. nt

Bryan May 20, 2008 05:48PM

I agree here.

Krilcov May 20, 2008 03:09PM

Re: Devil's Advocate: STSF

briartangle May 20, 2008 02:33PM

I think people are missing something

Treebeard May 20, 2008 02:32PM

Then you'll get beat. (txt)

wildgirl May 20, 2008 04:27PM

Except other warriors don't > random class.

Balrahd(VIP) May 20, 2008 04:37PM

Sorry your STSF elf wasn't a PK machine :(.

Jib May 20, 2008 02:23PM

Nepenthe freely admitted STSF is kinda a default choice for elf/drow warrior.

Sam May 20, 2008 09:27PM

Nope. That's part of my point.

wildgirl May 20, 2008 05:14PM

You had more PK wins too

DurNominator(VIP) May 20, 2008 09:52PM

I wasn't in that range at the time.

Krilcov May 20, 2008 05:45PM

It is overpowered. The matter is close.

Elhe May 20, 2008 02:14PM

What we have here, is whining babies.

odrirg May 20, 2008 02:11PM

By the way, when you put 2-3 blank lines between every other sentence, your post becomes very hard to look at. ~

Krilcov May 20, 2008 04:05PM

wow, you're right. it totally does.~

Inquisitor May 21, 2008 11:32PM

You're missing the importance of dex and daggers in this.

The Forsaken(VIP) May 20, 2008 02:54PM

honestly...txt

Isildur(VIP) May 20, 2008 03:52PM

Not to mention...

Krilcov May 20, 2008 03:59PM

When will you learn that bashing dagger elf stsf is STUPID? n/t

Elhe May 20, 2008 02:21PM



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