I've played both at hero.

RobDarken

March 02, 2012 02:41PM

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Going to have to disagree, if you have trouble winning that one as a ranger you're kind of a garbage ranger.

Can you die? Yeah, but the odds are heavily in the favor of the ranger. HEAVILY, and there is no good reason why the orc should ever have the advantage here.

What levels are we talking here? If it's pre 35-40 I could see it being risky.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2012 02:44PM by RobDarken.

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Summoning mobs: Something I still don't fully understand after 7 or 8 years at this game.	vortexmagus	March 01, 2012 03:14PM
Re: Summoning mobs: Something I still don't fully understand after 7 or 8 years at this game.	Unnamed_	March 01, 2012 07:49PM
Re: Summoning mobs: Something I still don't fully understand after 7 or 8 years at this game.	Isildur(VIP)	March 02, 2012 11:45AM
Other things about summoning	hug	March 02, 2012 12:02PM
Re: Global Summoning	wrathpuppet	March 02, 2012 12:32PM
On the other hand...	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 04:20PM
Re: Global Summoning	Isildur(VIP)	March 02, 2012 02:33PM
I love you. If you want babies, I'm game. (n/t)	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 10:52AM
Re: Summoning mobs: Something I still don't fully understand after 7 or 8 years at this game.	Hoffy	March 01, 2012 04:51PM
And the red dragon at the large intersetion. Corpses upon corpses. (n/t)	Frosty	March 01, 2012 05:42PM
I miss summoning the hurricane and hitting it in MS.	vladamir	March 01, 2012 06:48PM
Holy shit, when's the last time someone auctioned a piece of gear? n/t	Someone Not Special, Esquire	March 02, 2012 02:19AM
When did they remove that command? n/t	Forsooth	March 02, 2012 03:09AM
Ignore this blatant anti-Villager post and instead tell me how the fuck to get on a boat on the sea.	wrathpuppet	March 01, 2012 03:20PM
The boats are not even quest related really.	zannon	March 02, 2012 08:52AM
Re: The boats are not even quest related really.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 09:11AM
Damn it, secret is out	zannon	March 02, 2012 11:25AM
Holy shit. I had no idea it was this complicated.	wrathpuppet	March 02, 2012 03:45AM
Punctuation is important.	Demtok	March 01, 2012 06:19PM
I spent years and years trying to figure this out as well.	vortexmagus	March 01, 2012 03:37PM
How ironic	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 12:42AM
Ask any of my chars IC about it. I'm always glad to share what I know, ICly. (n/t)	vladamir	March 02, 2012 01:13AM
Most people are, and I am as well. But it's not always within a character's RP to ask, of course. (n/t)	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 02:42AM
Seriously?	Splntrd	March 02, 2012 10:30PM
If you think those things are bad.. Ktengs...	istirith	March 02, 2012 07:30AM
Doesn't work for all boats.	Sam	March 01, 2012 03:39PM
Which is even more reason to share information and help newbies out.	vortexmagus	March 01, 2012 03:41PM
but it is a quest, not all quests end with success.	abernyte	March 01, 2012 11:43PM
That's not a good analogy	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 02:41AM
I have, and you're wrong.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 05:12AM
It's the truth.	Splntrd	March 02, 2012 06:32AM
You're the one guy who plays by all the rules	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 06:19AM
Oh god, dreaded Kteng's	Matrik	March 02, 2012 06:28AM
When it comes down to it. I normally don't want to put in the time	TJHuron	March 02, 2012 05:48AM
So why would you expect a hand-out?	istirith	March 02, 2012 07:35AM
It's called a spoon around here, pal. Take your reaganomics to the sportsboard. (n/t)	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 07:49AM
I've helped a lot of people in game. Even with the dreaded rat-trap.	istirith	March 02, 2012 07:53AM
Then don't do it? No one says you have to. (n/t)	Matrik	March 02, 2012 06:02AM
You do have to, if you want to compete.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 06:44AM
I don't think you do.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 06:51AM
No you don't.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 06:49AM
I think our ideas of competing are skewed.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 07:32AM
Clearly.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 07:55AM
Accumulation of knowledge	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 09:23AM
Right	Matrik	March 02, 2012 09:40AM
No, no. That's not my argument at all.	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 09:55AM
Ah, I see.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 10:04AM
Incentive	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 10:17AM
I agree, it does work opposite to the way I'd like...	Matrik	March 02, 2012 10:22AM
Who said anything about taking them out?	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 09:43AM
Just open discussion with some rambling.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 09:50AM
So your idea of competitive is being able to win every fight?	Matrik	March 02, 2012 07:44AM
No, its more like being able to win every fight.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 07:51AM
Being able to win every fight. That's exactly what I said isn't it?	Matrik	March 02, 2012 08:29AM
That's an extreme example	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 09:02AM
It is, for sure, an extreme example.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 09:11AM
Gnome warriors	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 09:36AM
Heh	Matrik	March 02, 2012 09:43AM
Wait, what?	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 09:58AM
No, no, I know they can be.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 10:08AM
Well	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 10:05AM
One day someone will wow the crowd with a Hunter or Animist too, I betchya (n/t)	Matrik	March 02, 2012 10:09AM
See, to me, that's flashy and stupid.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 08:05AM
See, I'm not judging your ideas of competitiveness.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 08:33AM
dude, you're having issues vs Orcs as ranger, the only newbie i see here is you	zoskia	March 02, 2012 12:36PM
An orc can defeat a ranger in the wilds.	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 02:25PM
Right that's like saying a newb can defeat a scion lich if he finds him sleeping & convulsing	zoskia	March 02, 2012 02:59PM
..unless he makes mistake..	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 03:26PM
Re: ..unless he makes mistake..	zoskia	March 02, 2012 03:34PM
There are logs of skilled rangers doing just that.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 03:17PM
Some rangers i consider skilled and their death stats	zoskia	March 02, 2012 03:45PM
And there you have it. An orc killing a skilled ranger.	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 04:08PM
Cmon now this is just playing semantics ;-)	zoskia	March 02, 2012 04:09PM
With orcs, fallback+permalag with bash+savage feeding on every bash is possible.	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 04:21PM
Tactics 101 (n/t)	zoskia	March 02, 2012 04:23PM
Even without fallback and slave, the orc can still win.	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 05:12PM
See my Tactics 101 post, i don't consider ranger who dies to orc skilled	zoskia	March 02, 2012 03:19PM
- deleted -	zoskia	March 02, 2012 03:11PM
Yeah uh.. Ranger vs Orc isn't exactly an easy match up pre hero.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 02:23PM
I think you're sort of stupid.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 02:07PM
This is not a flame	zoskia	March 02, 2012 02:50PM
Never say never.	DurNominator(VIP)	March 02, 2012 02:58PM
Tactics 101	zoskia	March 02, 2012 03:13PM
Knowing the ranger is there, and expecting the trap and coming prepared for it: Just as priceless.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 04:11PM
You know, you still don't get it, this is one of the things that you keep missing yet essential IMO	zoskia	March 02, 2012 04:21PM
I've played both at hero.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 02:41PM
Really?	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 08:38AM
Okay, but the debate you engaged me in is one of semantics.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 09:38AM
True, killing seems to be a much more reliable way of getting that sword.	Coumidin	March 02, 2012 06:52AM
It's just, he specifically says quests/riddles.	RobDarken	March 02, 2012 06:55AM
Heh or just find it lying around. Like the Five Faces of Evil I found on the ground with my assassin at level 11.	Matrik	March 02, 2012 06:55AM
You're part of the immspiracy to ensure an uneven playing field.	vortexmagus	March 02, 2012 01:18AM
There are certain items you must have when you yell. nt	qurdind	March 01, 2012 03:25PM
I'm not sure how questy this is considered, so I don't want to give too much info. nt	qurdind	March 01, 2012 03:28PM

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